topic Re: Cabinet Schedules in Collaboration with other software

Cabinet Schedules

Erich — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:29:05 GMT

In our practice, prior to AC, we had a cabinet schedule that was done in excel and typically gave information about cabinet style, door and drawer style, finishes, etc. for each room where cabinets occured. As I make the initial transfer to AC I am trying to get the program to product this so we can eliminate external schedules and just deal with them internally (even if we then export to excel).

However, I find cabinets difficult to get to schedule due to all the various parts and pieces. To get around this I have added parameters to our zone object and am scheduling that instead of the cabinets themselves.

Does anyone have a better way of doing this or is this work around the best for now? At least until I write my own cabinets.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

vfrontiers — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:20:35 GMT

Without really knowing your specific problem, one tip I've used for many years is to put a FLAG in the ID of parts that you don't want to schedule. I typically use an *.

You can then set your schedule to ignore objects that have that ID.

Hope that helps...

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Erich — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 14:57:37 GMT

vfrontiers,

Sorry, I was as clear as mud up above...

My issue is that AC can schedule cabinets box by box easily enough, but what we would like to do is schedule cabinets room by room. So, for example, a kitchen would have a single entry describing the common characteristics of the cabinets in that room instead of having 20 or 30 entries covering every cabinet box in that room. Is that clearer?

This is why I revised our zone script to allow for cabinet information. However, it is not intelligent, in that it does not know when cabinets are present in the zone, we must tell it that information. fortunately, this is not hard for the size projects we do. I was just wondering if anyone had a better solution.

While there may be a benefit at times to scheduling cabinets box by box, it seems quite unnecessary as a good interior elevation and a simple cabinet schedule provides a complete description without the complexity.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

vfrontiers — Wed, 12 Mar 2008 13:28:18 GMT

Erich wrote:
vfrontiers,

Sorry, I was as clear as mud up above...

My issue is that AC can schedule cabinets box by box easily enough, but what we would like to do is schedule cabinets room by room. So, for example, a kitchen would have a single entry describing the common characteristics of the cabinets in that room instead of having 20 or 30 entries covering every cabinet box in that room. Is that clearer?

This is why I revised our zone script to allow for cabinet information. However, it is not intelligent, in that it does not know when cabinets are present in the zone, we must tell it that information. fortunately, this is not hard for the size projects we do. I was just wondering if anyone had a better solution.

While there may be a benefit at times to scheduling cabinets box by box, it seems quite unnecessary as a good interior elevation and a simple cabinet schedule provides a complete description without the complexity.

It would seem that what you need is CabinetONE. I created this thing about a million years ago and the premise is that ONE object can create ALL types of cabinets for quick visualization. So rather than placing 10 - 2' chunks of cabinet, you would place ONE 20' cabinet with X number of doors / drawers.

If your looking for something like 20' of Base and 18' of Upper in any given room, this might be the ticket.

I have tried to post it to the depository here, but I can't seem to get it to go. When I get into work this morning, I'll try to post here (I am not sure how big the file is now)...

Does this sound like what you're after?

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Erich — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 01:25:21 GMT

Duane,

CabinetONE may be a reasonable solution. I would be interested in checking it out if you are able to post it in either location. Meanwhile, I will just continue with my current work around.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

vfrontiers — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:45:35 GMT

Here's the CabinetONE module and library. You'll need to have the AC Library 11 loaded to see the sample kitchen..

Enjoy! Use it freely, just don't sell it.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Erich — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:39:07 GMT

Duane,

Thanks, I will give this a try and see it it works better for our work flow.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:52:22 GMT

Duane,
Thank u very much for your cabinet one parts. I find that your custom parts are easier to use than the ones in the Archicad library.
I have a question for u.
How can I place a sink through your complex profile countertop?

Thanks once again,
Abraham

Re: Cabinet Schedules

vfrontiers — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:08:27 GMT

Abee4u wrote:
Duane,
Thank u very much for your cabinet one parts. I find that your custom parts are easier to use than the ones in the Archicad library.
I have a question for u.
How can I place a sink through your complex profile countertop?

Thanks once again,
Abraham

I figured someone would ask that! I have typically used just a slab and would cut a hole in it for a sink.

With the complex profile counter, I guess you'd need an SEO to cut it away.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 21:36:15 GMT

vfrontiers wrote:

I figured someone would ask that! I have typically used just a slab and would cut a hole in it for a sink.

With the complex profile counter, I guess you'd need an SEO to cut it away.

Thanks, I will look into SEO (of which i am not familiar with).

EDIT: Ok I tried SEO and I can't remove the interior of the sink bowl do u have any suggestions? Thanks in advance

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Erich — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:48:31 GMT

Abee4u,

It sounds as though you are using the sink as the operator for the SEO. Use a solid element, such as a slab equal to the plan dimensions of the sink, as the operator and then place it on a layer that you can turn off once the operation is complete. This will remove all the counter where the sink is including the material in the bowl.

Note, that you cannot delete the operator element. It must remain part of the model or the hole you make will be deleted.

HTH

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 18:45:45 GMT

Erich,

Thanks for your advice, it worked well. I am now truly in love with Archicad

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Dwight — Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:21:12 GMT

Abee4u wrote:
I am now truly in love with Archicad

Let us know when the Honeymoon ends.

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Mar 2008 22:03:19 GMT

Ok. Now that i figured out how to work with (SEO) and Profile Manager I still have one more question to end this topic for me.

"Is there a way on setting a cover Fill to my Custom Profile in its settings without having to actually add a fill on top of my customized profile?

Example: I created a custom countertop and I want to add the the Granite fill material to it.

Thanks in advance

Re: Cabinet Schedules

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 05:07:34 GMT

Duane:
I took the liberty of downloading your CabinetOne.
I assumed that was ok since it was openly posted.
If that's not ok, let me know.
What little I've played with it so far, I really think it
fits the bill, since cabinet/sales shops really have the fancy
detailed stuff dialed in now anyway.
Thank you.
Costs for upgrades?