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Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Anonymous — Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:31:05 GMT

Does anyone recommend a virus protection software for a PC? I am tending to steer away from Norton because of some slow down issues I had seen on an older machine. Spending most of my time on Macs has kept me out of the loop. Thanks for any advice

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

LiHigh — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:01:05 GMT

See for yourself: http://www.wilderssecurity.com/index.php?

BTW, I use NOD32.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Anonymous — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:55:51 GMT

Don't Open Unknown Atttachments and do not use MS Outlook as your E-mail Software.

Also use a Firewall or better yet a Router for your Network Connection.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Gorazd — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:54:50 GMT

We had some problems with Panda Antivirus (accessing network). Now we use Bit Defender. Every day at least ten infected mails comes into my inbox and it handles them as it should. Also router and a firewall should be in place and yes, no IE or Outlook.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Laszlo Nagy — Tue, 21 Mar 2006 09:17:47 GMT

I also heard very good things about NOD32.
Seems like it is MUCH faster than Norton for example, when it comes to scanning for viruses.
Also, it has been rated 100% by Virus Security Bulletin (or something - it comes out every 2 months, I think) more than 30 times. This means that it catches all viruses, even those that are not yet in its virus database, because it uses heuristic processes, which are so good no virus can get through them. Pretty impressive.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

ci-JoshOs — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:13:29 GMT

Definitely NOD32.
It uses a tiny amount of your system resources, picks up everything you can throw at it, and is very inotrusive. It just does its thing and only ever confronts you with a scary dialog box if it really needs your approval for something.
In addition to that, you will need sygate personal firewall to protect your computer. It is also very inobtrusive and powerful(a bit ugly though).
Better than that would be a hardware firewall, but if you don't want to fork out for it, sygate is the best software solution.
Along with those 2, you will want to scan your computer with Ad-Aware about once a week(dont go near windows defender with a long pole).
All you Mac users out there that are chuckling about this, adware and viruses are starting to become more common for Macs as well to wipe that smug look off your face.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

LiHigh — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 03:55:59 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
Definitely NOD32.
It uses a tiny amount of your system resources, picks up everything you can throw at it, and is very inotrusive. It just does its thing and only ever confronts you with a scary dialog box if it really needs your approval for something.
In addition to that, you will need sygate personal firewall to protect your computer. It is also very inobtrusive and powerful(a bit ugly though).
Better than that would be a hardware firewall, but if you don't want to fork out for it, sygate is the best software solution.
Along with those 2, you will want to scan your computer with Ad-Aware about once a week(dont go near windows defender with a long pole).
All you Mac users out there that are chuckling about this, adware and viruses are starting to become more common for Macs as well to wipe that smug look off your face.

I thought I'm the rare species..........

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

TomWaltz — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 13:31:28 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
All you Mac users out there that are chuckling about this, adware and viruses are starting to become more common for Macs as well to wipe that smug look off your face.

Starting to become more common? There are still ZERO viruses in the wild, and only one in the lab (that if I recall was not sreadable via internet).... is that really an increase?

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

ci-JoshOs — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:41:20 GMT

check out: http://www.securemac.com/
Say hello OSX Leap/oompa!
compared to none at all, 1 virus is a lot. Also, be sure to check out the plethora of security holes in OSX.
Not to mention the virus that comes pre-installed with all new macs called iTunes(yuk).

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

TomWaltz — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:49:30 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
check out: http://www.securemac.com/
Say hello OSX Leap/oompa!
compared to none at all, 1 virus is a lot. Also, be sure to check out the plethora of security holes in OSX.
Not to mention the virus that comes pre-installed with all new macs called iTunes(yuk).

I'm surprised I hadn't heard anything about the iChat worm. The last one I heard was a proof-of-concept thing that some lab came up with.

oh yeah, there are security holes all over the place, most of them in Safari (one of MANY reasons that I use Firefox instead).

What's so bad about iTunes?

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

ci-JoshOs — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:59:10 GMT

In some ways it's quite good in that it is the only reason i actually use the mac in my office. The Mac is the jukebox and the PC is for work.
Its hard to pin down the reason that i don't like it, but seeing as it is pretty much all there is for the Mac, i have to stick with it for the moment. I just don't like the way that it takes all the controll away from me. It guess its in keeping with the whole mac philosophy of making stuff user-friendly and pretty at the cost of features/control. plus i don't like giving so much money to steve jobs and sony to buy music(http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/).
Once Songbird(www.songbirdnest.com) is ready for Mac, i will switch to that though.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

TomWaltz — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:20:04 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
I just don't like the way that it takes all the controll away from me. It guess its in keeping with the whole mac philosophy of making stuff user-friendly and pretty at the cost of features/control. .

I know we're WAY off topic now, but what features/controls do you feel like iTunes doesn't have? I've always been really happy with it.

I feel like the Apple software I use (like Remote Desktop, Keynote, Pages, Final Cut Pro) is the most feature-rich and controllable software I've seen. What do you feel they are lacking?

The websites you reference are interesting, Is there any evidence to back up the claims? They seem to contradict some of the statements from Apple's accounting reports (since they are publicly traded, they are legally required to submit a lot of stuff). Once report stated that Apple earned 0.5 cents for each song sold, not the 35 cents claimed on downhillbattle (trying to find the report on that. I thought it was in an SEC filing referenced in one of their quarterly earning reports).

Is downhillbattle's page a real and a solid argument against Apple? Or is it just well-designed libel from a group who does not seem to care about copyright and IP laws or even have evidence for its statements?

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

ci-JoshOs — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:54:54 GMT

I porbably shouldn't go on anymore or this will turn into a Mac vs PC debate, which this is not the place for. Suffice to say that i greatly dislike windows, but i like OSX a lot less. Deep down, i really love the registry. My most commonly used program is notepad(never crashes), and i love my start menu, which is a perfect compliment to the dock(but if i could only have 1 i would go with the start menu).

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

TomWaltz — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:04:37 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
I porbably shouldn't go on anymore or this will turn into a Mac vs PC debate, which this is not the place for. Suffice to say that i greatly dislike windows, but i like OSX a lot less. Deep down, i really love the registry. My most commonly used program is notepad(never crashes), and i love my start menu, which is a perfect compliment to the dock(but if i could only have 1 i would go with the start menu).

That's funny. My most-used are probably TextEdit (more like WordPad) and OmniOutliner (which I totally live on!!)

I recently started using Oxygen a lot more for all the freaking XML files that are popping up all over, since raw XML is SO hard to read in a text editor.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

ci-JoshOs — Thu, 23 Mar 2006 22:14:20 GMT

Yes, I'm starting to have to get into using XML file on the Mac now, and i'm struggling.
There are just so many of them, and there isn't really a central repository for them(like the registry). Most seem to be in the users library folder or the system folders, but there doesn't really seem to be a rule for this. Some even go into the folder of the program itself which is very annoying after searching everywhere else for 5 minutes.
Oh well. i used some sort of Omni software to edit them a while back, but our trial version ran out, and i wasn't using them much at that stage so i didn't buy it. Might have to check it out again.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Anonymous — Wed, 31 May 2006 10:10:10 GMT

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Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Jefferson — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 20:49:15 GMT

Henry,

You wrote:

(dont go near windows defender with a long pole)

I'm real curious why.

I've been very diligent about keeping all antivirus and scanning [AVG] software updated and scanning weekly. I've got a father + friends who insist on poor internet/email protocol, continuously sending crap as well forwarding non blind copied mass emails. You cna't just auto-delete your family.........so self protection is incumbent. I've used Norton internet security, with AVG Ad-Aware - Spybot - Windows Defender -CW Shredder combo. Norton only because I like the anti-spam email filter which ultimately saves me time. The others because they've been trouble free, seem to work together OK and free.

I'll be looking into NOD32 soon. Thanks -

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Aussie John — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 06:35:17 GMT

The leap ooompa thing was blown out of proportion. It wasnt possible to spread with out user intervention. It required an administrator passsword. Once installed it could spread in the system though. The only viruses we get in out office are ones in office files from a PC client or consultant.

Re: Recomended Antivirus software for a PC

Anonymous — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 10:41:23 GMT

Aussie wrote:
The leap ooompa thing was blown out of proportion. It wasnt possible to spread with out user intervention. It required an administrator passsword. Once installed it could spread in the system though. The only viruses we get in out office are ones in office files from a PC client or consultant.

The PC press seems to really exaggerate any apparent virus or exploit on OSX. CNET in particular is prone to this. There is of course the tendency to report on the exceptional. (I would rather live in a city where murder makes headlines than one where it is relegated to the back pages or goes unreported.) But there does seem to be an eagerness to report viruses that aren't there or user reports of infections that weren't.

I'm sure that as Macs become more widely used (assuming the strong sales continue) the likelihood of actual viruses will increase. In the meantime I am quite happy not having to worry about it. Of course I am installing virus protection on my WinXP partition before I connect it to the internet and do find it annoying that I have to spend precious time doing it.