topic Re: There goes Maya... in Collaboration with other software

Autode$k aquires Alias...

Petros Ioannou — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:39:38 GMT

check

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/index?id=5970886&siteID=123112

Any comments?

Re: Autode$k aquires Alias...

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:52:08 GMT

There goes Mac support... Welcome MayaViz Studio R8

There goes Maya...

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:16:27 GMT

Just heard this:
Autodesk bought Alias.
This way, they own 3D Studio Max AND Maya
http://www.computerweekly.com/Articles/Article.aspx?liArticleID=212192&PrinterFriendly=true
This small remark I find VERY interesting:
"Autodesk will use the $182m (£107m) takeover to support customers moving from 2D to 3D computer-aided design programs."
So, who will be next?

Re: There goes Maya...

Anonymous — Thu, 20 Oct 2005 14:36:30 GMT

Now I find out this is old news (2 weeks old):
http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Autodesk_to_buy_Alias
And I do not see this mentioned anywhere in here...

Do you think this is irrelevant to us?
Because, the way I see it, this is a big move on the 3D scene.
My feeling is, Autodesk realizes AutoCad and all those other 2d c.r.a.p. wont get them anywhere, so they are shifting 3D.
Does this ring a bell?

Re: There goes Maya...

Djordje — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 08:21:57 GMT

It was mentioned:

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=46614&highlight=#466

so I merged the topics.

Re: There goes Maya...

Scott Davis — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:03:15 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
so they are shifting 3D. Does this ring a bell?

It rang a bell 3 and a half years ago when they bought Revit Technology Corporation.

Re: Autode$k aquires Alias...

TomWaltz — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:13:00 GMT

Why would we care? Are a lot of architects using Alias?

Autodesk bought Lightscape a few years ago. No one really cared about that.

Re: Autode$k aquires Alias...

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 17:32:27 GMT

And LightScape is resting in peace as a stand alone porgram. I don't think that the main reason to buy Alias was Maya but StudioTools to be to Inventor what Revit is to Architectural Desktop and make inroads into the Industrial Design Market (most of the car companies use it). Also lets not forget Alias SketchBookPro since Autodesk's product (whatever the name was) was a flop.
This looks like the start of a beautiful monopoly...

Re: There goes Maya...

__archiben — Fri, 21 Oct 2005 22:50:00 GMT

Scott wrote:
Krippahl wrote:
so they are shifting 3D. Does this ring a bell?
It rang a bell 3 and a half years ago when they bought Revit Technology Corporation.

i thought about writing an equally facetious comment when i read that a few days ago scott, but i'm glad i held off: it sounded so much better coming from you!

cheers!
~/archiben

Re: Autode$k aquires Alias...

stefan — Sun, 23 Oct 2005 20:00:22 GMT

As far as official opinions go, they were mainly interested in the StudioTools and only to a lesser extent in Maya.

Sure, they allready did this in the past: Inventor to join (and overrule) Mechanical Desktop (AutoCAD-based) and Revit to join (and overwhelm) Architectural Desktop (also AutoCAD-based, do we see a pattern?).

But all these applications are still on the market and are still being upgraded.

Sure, Lightscape is dead, but most of what Lightscape could do is now possible in VIZ and 3ds max.

It was a surprising announcement, but merging two very distinct applications (that are both getting old) into one doesn't sound like the best road to success... I rather think that a next-generation of these applications will build in the aquired intellectual property and core developers base of the old ones. Think rahther in terms of moving from 3D Studio for DOS to 3ds max and from Wavefront and Poweranimator into Maya.

At the recent Autodesk User conference, it was pretty clear that the 'new' Autodesk kids (Revit and Inventor) are getting pushed rather hard. But not to say that they aren't thinking about the future of AutoCAD...

Interesting times, that's for sure.

Re: There goes Maya...

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Oct 2005 08:21:37 GMT

Scott wrote:
It rang a bell 3 and a half years ago when they bought Revit Technology Corporation.

This is not only a different bell, it is a different church...

When Autodesk bought Revit, it was to get into the BIM business. They had ADT, which was/is really a lame way of doing 3D architecture. They maintained it, for all their Autocad users, and bought a whole new software
The equivalent would be buying Max to get into the general purpose modeling and animation.
So:
Lightscape they bought to have a high end rendering engine.
Revit they bought to have a BIM solution.
Maya they bought to crush competition, as they already had an equivalent (Max).

The same bell would be buying a foreign BIM software (Maya is/was canadian) to have as close to a Monopoly as they can.

I do not consider myself a prophet of doom (even changed the avatar, Dwight told me the last one was to serious) but consider:
How are Maya users feeling, now they are being pushed into AutoDesk?
http://keithlango.blogspot.com/2005/10/autodesk-buys-alias.html
http://www.3d-studio-max.com-forum.info/a-164534-Autodesk_Buys_Alias.html
And how would ArchiCAD users feel, in the same situation?