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creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Mon, 21 Aug 2006 12:12:05 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with using Adobe Acrobat 3D software for creating 3D .pdf files from ArchiCAD.
I find this exciting, and it works with ArchiCAD by simply pressing the PrintScreen key while in 3d window... althoght not perfectly.

The geometry is somewhat distorted (the whole building inclined) and so are the textures and the lights are so dark.
See what I got with it, the file is attached.
If anyone got results better than this please let me know.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Djordje — Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:16:00 GMT

Akos wrote:
Does anyone have any experience with using Adobe Acrobat 3D software for creating 3D .pdf files from ArchiCAD.
I find this exciting, and it works with ArchiCAD by simply pressing the PrintScreen key while in 3d window... althoght not perfectly.

The geometry is somewhat distorted (the whole building inclined) and so are the textures and the lights are so dark.
See what I got with it, the file is attached.
If anyone got results better than this please let me know.

Save the 3D as U3D file first.

Then, when publishing, show it to the Publisher ...

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:05:40 GMT

I actually tried exporting it as U3D in the meantime.
It works better indeed.
Thanks Djordje!

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:50:55 GMT

anyone else wish to share their 3D PDFs??

Akos Can you repost your new PDF for us to see?

I assume this can only be done in AC10 and not 9?

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 10:56:21 GMT

anyone else wish to share their 3D PDFs??

Akos Can you repost your new PDF for us to see?

I assume this can only be done in AC10 and not 9?

Is this still only a windows feature? any idea when mac support will arrive?

ooops sorry about double posting, still its taken the count to 150!!!!

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 14:06:00 GMT

Sure, here it is.
I think you can not export U3D from AC9, that's the difficulty.
Otherwise it should work from AC9 with 'PrintScreen' method but the results are not great as shown on my previous post.
Maybe it's worth keep experimenting if you're stuck with AC9.
Not sure about mac support neither, sorry about that.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:58:05 GMT

Akos

When I view your PDF it initially shows up o.k. (left image) but when I click on it to rotate (cursor is a pointing finger) it changes to image on right. It does rotate / navigate but with no light at all.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

owen — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 05:19:39 GMT

s2art .. check you have the latest update for Acrobat perhaps? I've tried this file on 2 machines here with the current build (7.0.8 ) and its fine, but on a machine with 7.0.5(or .4? ) i had the same problem you show.

Updating as i speak so will let you know if this fixes the problem.

AKAIK ArchiCAD 10 on Mac cannot export these ... something to do with the native OS X PDF drivers?

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:18:34 GMT

s2art .. check you have the latest update for Acrobat perhaps?

That's right, I have 7.0.8 as well and it works fine.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:43:54 GMT

...also if you download a 30-day tryout of Adobe Acrobat 3D from here:
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat3d/tryout.html
you can watch the 3D cross section of it as well.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

SeaGeoff — Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:50:09 GMT

This works fine on Mac. Just save as U3D file from the 3D window then use the 3D tool in acrobat to insert into a PDF file. The only the thing I cannot figure out is why the U3D opens with a dark gray background. And Djordje what do mean when you say show the U3D to the publisher?

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Aug 2006 02:33:56 GMT

Yep. Upgraded to 7.0.8 and it's working just fine. Must have been the problem.

Love that Transparent mode, and Vertices is a bit of a laugh!

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Steve Jepson — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:49:47 GMT

Akos,

Do you know if there is a limit on how large the ArchiCAD file saved as a U3d can be?

I am using the Acrobat 7 Pro and it seems like my model is to big. The program eventually just crashes after a very long time trying to create the U3d.

Any tips?

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:23:02 GMT

My own experiments would suggest you should not bother creating large models for 3D PDF - the navigation engine is just terrible and things crash and burn!

I am not sure I can offer a good alternative, sorry to be so negative!

John

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 23:17:53 GMT

I am trying to create a 3D PDF. I am using Windows and ArchiCAD 10
I have the U3D file created but in the help it says
"Set the Publisher Set Properties to PDF format. (This is the default publishing format.) "

I do not have this format. Default is DWF. And I don't have the option to change it to PDF. It isn't even in the list.

Any help would be appreciated.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Link — Fri, 15 Dec 2006 01:35:54 GMT

U3D is really only meant for small models.

To get access to the PDF option, read the post here which is a repeat of many similar replies to the same question.

Good luck.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:17:23 GMT

U3D is only an option in version 10,
or is there a way to make it in ArchiCAD 9 as well

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Link — Fri, 22 Dec 2006 23:52:16 GMT

No, AC10 only I'm afraid.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Sep 2020 00:50:25 GMT

Old post, still current.
Any idea if/when U3D would be supported by Mac Users?
I found this bizarre ...and disappointing!! >.<
Is asking me for an XML file which is there.. but doesn't grab it??!?!!?

Re: creating 3D Adobe PDF documents

Minh Nguyen — Wed, 23 Sep 2020 05:52:31 GMT

Deviz wrote:
Old post, still current.
Any idea if/when U3D would be supported by Mac Users?
I found this bizarre ...and disappointing!! >.<
Is asking me for an XML file which is there.. but doesn't grab it??!?!!?

Hello,

Thank you very much for the report and I am very sorry about the issue!

I have asked for our developers' opinion, and here is what they said: U3D is supported on MacOS. He tried it with a basic plan and it works.

This function has certain limitations (regarding file size), but he couldn't figure out what has cause the problem here. Maybe the file is unavailable or access is denied? At this point we only check whether the file is present in the file system.

Only the part of the long file name is visible on the screenshot. Are the file names exactly the same excluding the extension? Maybe the files were renamed but not exactly the same?

Let me know if these suggestions somewhat helps with the issue!

Best regards,
Minh