topic Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries in Collaboration with other software

Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Thu, 04 May 2006 14:04:18 GMT

So, continuing on with my previous postings, if I were to send out a model, and some one had ArchiCAD and wanted to look at it and move it around, I would have to send my libraries with it?

I dont want to send our purchased libraries out to people and other firms, right?

How do I work around this?

If I dont send the libraries, then the model will be missing parts? Correct?

Thanks!
Jess

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Thu, 04 May 2006 16:05:11 GMT

Do you really need to send a model ? Send drawings. If you are asking about some sort of protection there is none (as far as I know.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Thu, 04 May 2006 16:06:00 GMT

I was wrong Send a model as a 3ds or some other 3d format.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Thu, 04 May 2006 20:53:56 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:

If I dont send the libraries, then the model will be missing parts? Correct?

Save as PLA (archive) format, then all relevant library parts are embedded into the file.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Thomas Holm — Thu, 04 May 2006 21:07:04 GMT

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=58904#58904

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Thu, 04 May 2006 21:16:24 GMT

s2art wrote:
Jesikuh123 wrote:

If I dont send the libraries, then the model will be missing parts? Correct?

Save as PLA (archive) format, then all relevant library parts are embedded into the file.

How about Stairs or Mesh created by Cigraph or Elements created by CadImage?
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Fri, 05 May 2006 05:02:36 GMT

get the zeramtt engine, it's a fantastic way to share the model without actually sharing library parts if u don't wish.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Fri, 05 May 2006 15:30:56 GMT

I saved my model as an archive, I opened the archive in archiCAD and it was missing things, railings roofs, etc... and giving me errors, I skipped through the errors and the objects that were error-ing did not appear.

I tried to open it in Sketch Up and it said it doesnt support the file type.

What are the other 3d formats that were suggested and how do I use them?

Thanks!

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

TomWaltz — Fri, 05 May 2006 15:45:46 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:
I saved my model as an archive, I opened the archive in archiCAD and it was missing things, railings roofs, etc... and giving me errors, I skipped through the errors and the objects that were error-ing did not appear.

I tried to open it in Sketch Up and it said it doesnt support the file type.

What are the other 3d formats that were suggested and how do I use them?

Thanks!

when you save as Archive, you have to click "Options" and check "Include all library parts".

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Fri, 05 May 2006 15:47:06 GMT

Ok, I will try that now, and this is supposed to open with the SketchUp Viewer?
i am trying to do somethign with blender now, not getting anywhere too fast with that either.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Gerald Hoffman — Fri, 05 May 2006 16:15:53 GMT

If you save your AC 3D view out to 3DS file you can import it into Sketchup. You can then add any dimensions or notations you want and save it as a Sketchup file. You can't just do this with the viewer, you need the Sketchup program but that is now free from Google. (although not for commercial use and only on PC for now).

Tom in regards to saving out as Achive I have experienced problems with this as well, in particular to 3rd party libraries. Macros are often left out in the save operation. If you know of a way to correct this I would like to know.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

TomWaltz — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:08:08 GMT

Jesikuh123 wrote:
Ok, I will try that now, and this is supposed to open with the SketchUp Viewer?
i am trying to do somethign with blender now, not getting anywhere too fast with that either.

Archicad can read Sketchup files. Sketchup cannot read Archicad files.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:09:35 GMT

Peter wrote:
get the zeramtt engine, it's a fantastic way to share the model without actually sharing library parts if u don't wish.

What is "zeramtt" and how does it solve the add-on issue?
Joseph

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

TomWaltz — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:20:29 GMT

Joseph wrote:
Peter wrote:
get the zeramtt engine, it's a fantastic way to share the model without actually sharing library parts if u don't wish.
What is "zeramtt" and how does it solve the add-on issue?
Joseph

The Zermatt engine is a $995 addon for Archicad.
http://www.bobrowconsulting.com/p/Zermatt.php

No thanks.

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Anonymous — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:32:20 GMT

I want a live model so someone else can modify the AC native parts of model and not necessarily the add-on potions.
Joseph

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

Thomas Holm — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:43:53 GMT

TomWaltz wrote:
The Zermatt engine is a $995 addon for Archicad.

Zermatt is grossly overpriced in my view. You get more functionality with Sketchup, especially if you want your client to be able to modify things.

Besides, the developers have been promising a mac version for more than 2 years now, with no result "we're working on it" I don't think the business goes as well as planned. The web site hasn't been updated lately either. I don't recommend spending your money. http://www.zermatt.se

Re: Sharing work & models, without sharing libraries

TomWaltz — Fri, 05 May 2006 17:44:49 GMT

Joseph wrote:
I want a live model so someone else can modify the AC native parts of model and not necessarily the add-on potions.
Joseph

I think the only way to pull that off is for the other person to have the exact same add-ons that you do. It would be like having two people in the same office needing the same setup.

Some add-ons will at least display their elements as long as the libraries are included in the archive, Others may not.