topic Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes in Collaboration with other software

AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes!

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:12:45 GMT

Hello any AT user's, It is almost 11 PM (23:00) in Rome at this time so most of the Cigraph staff are hopefully getting a good nights sleep.

I have a project migrated from AC9 into AC10 and I had previously used ArchiTerra (AT) 2.06 to create a mesh from a surveyors DXF file. The mesh was very slow in 3D (See discussion here ) and was having memory issues.

With the new purchase of AT 3 I decided to delete the mesh and the DXF imported data from the project and start over with AT 3.

When importing DXF data with AT 3.07, ArchiCAD 10 crashes. I have tried to import the DXF data into a fresh Template (not a NEW and Reset) and it still Crashes using AT 3.07. If I open a new template file in AC10 and import the DXF data using AT 2.06, it works fine.

I want to use AT 3. Do I have to remove AT 2.06 from the AC10 Add-Ons folder?

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:19:33 GMT

Just started from a New & Reset File. Importing DXF data using AT3.07 crashes AC10.

I am going to try a different DXF file now.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jun 2007 21:42:54 GMT

Removed the ArchiTerra 2 Folder from the Graphisoft>AC10>Add-Ons Folder.

Even with only the AT 3 Add-on the DXF import causes a Crash.

Has anyone had success with DXF import and AT 3 with AC10?

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:26:46 GMT

Just tried importing Data using a TXT file and this also crashed AC10

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Karl Ottenstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:47:41 GMT

Did you write Fabrizio directly when you first had a problem?

Karl

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:52:47 GMT

Reloaded the AT 2.06 into the AC10 Add-Ons Folder. The DXF files and the TXT file all import just fine.

Side Question for working with AT 2 & AT 3 both in the Add-Ons folder -

If the ArchiTerra.LIB library folder from AT 3 is used the Textures report as missing since AT 3 has no Textures folder. Also there seem to be many other objects in the AT 2 LIB folder that are not in the AT 3 LIB folder. Should I just load both? Loading both LIB seems to produce no duplicates.

Honestly, I think AT 3 is a much improved product and do not see using AT 2 or even having it in my Add-Ons.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 13:58:43 GMT

Karl wrote:
Did you write Fabrizio directly when you first had a problem?

Karl

Yes I wrote him. I also had sent him an e-mail about the Group Icon getting cropped in the DXF import Box. Not a big deal, but do others see this?

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:08:44 GMT

Does any one that owns AT want to try and import the DXF and see if they have a crash.

Here are a few DXF files and a TXT file. They are all different sites.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Fra — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 14:44:09 GMT

I've made a test with your files, AC10 e ATerra 3: ArchiCAD don't crash
I attach a screenshot with tin.dxf

Francesco

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2007 15:58:25 GMT

Thanks Francesco.

Fabrizio Stated that the files imported fine for him as well. He is running ArchiCAD 10.0.0 R1 (2582 / 1183) both the International, the Italian and the German version.

I am using 1183 USA Full version. Anyone able to test the USA version.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Jun 2007 18:06:49 GMT

So far the only way that I can work with a Mesh created from DXF or TXT data is to:
1. Import the DXF/TXT data using ArchiTerra 2.06
2. create the Outline and the Mesh using AT 2.06
3. Delete previously imported points and the outline fill
4. Closed the AT 2.0 palette
5. Opened the AT 3.0 palette
6. Selected the terrain and clicked on the ArchiTerra 3.0 Terrain tool icon and converted the mesh.

At this point I seem to be able to use the AT 3 tools to manipulate the Mesh.

When creating the left and right Lonitudinal Sections of a road way created from a Fill the section object can be placed but not manipulated as stated on Page 76 of the users guide. There it states that the Longitudinal sections can be repositioned using a editable hotspot to reposition. I could not get this to work. I can move the Sections, but not independently for each other.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Fabrizio Diodati — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 08:14:41 GMT

Hi Jay,

about the import crash, as I already privately wrote you, we are still investigating because we are not able to reproduce your trouble...
About the independent positioning of the longitudinal sections please look at the attached image, it should help you...

Friendly
Fabrizio

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:27:51 GMT

Fabrizio wrote:
Hi Jay,

about the import crash, as I already privately wrote you, we are still investigating because we are not able to reproduce your trouble...

Thank you as always Fabrizio & Cigraph. Your company is one of the best with customer service. Do you have a USA release of the software to test the import from DXF? I do not know how the USA release is different from the international and oters, but this is puzzling.

Fabrizio wrote:
About the independent positioning of the longitudinal sections please look at the attached image, it should help you...

Thank you for the further instruction. I was always attempting to move the Upper (Left) Llongitudinal Section. It worked when moving the Lower (Right) Section. The Manual does state, "...an editable hotspot in the bottom left corner of the lower section..." I just need to read more closely.

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes

Fabrizio Diodati — Wed, 27 Jun 2007 07:24:24 GMT

I do not know how the USA release is different from the international and others

Jay, this is the real trouble: all the versions are the same!
Just different strings are used in the localized version but the core or the software is always the same.
I have other users which use ArchiTerra 3 and nobidy got this kind of trouble...

Friendly
Fabrizio

Re: AC 10 - ArchiTerra 2.06 Works, ArchiTerra 3.07 Crashes!

Fabrizio Diodati — Tue, 03 Jul 2007 13:59:28 GMT

Dear friends,

as Jay already knows (we had a quite day by day correspondence) he was right!
The import bug appears if the ArchiTerra user utilizes the Imperial system as working unit.
We already make available a mainenance update for ArchiTerra 3.0 (for all the AC versions and all the OS) on our web site that fixes this fastidious bug.

Sorry for the inconvenient...

Friendly
Fabrizio