topic Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule in Collaboration with other software

How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:17:15 GMT

Lets say I have 1 MU casement that has 3 windows in it and the width is 12'-0" total. On the schedule, it shows 1 window 12'-0" wide. Is there to label it so its 3 windows, 4'-0" each ? Because if I change the text in the schedule, it will change the window on the plan.

The reason I want to change it is that's more of the convention for window schedules. What is the convention that works in AC schedules that others have used?

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Chazz — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:25:29 GMT

If it schedules as three separate windows then I think it should be modeled that way too (and labeled that way on plan etc).

I use Cadimage's Door&Window Builder (which has its own schedule issues) and it has a way to turn off trims and other lines so that adjacent windows can be placed side by side and still look like a single unit while scheduling as multiple units. I thought that AC introduced something similar in V10 or before.

Or am I missing your point?

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Anonymous — Wed, 14 May 2008 14:57:02 GMT

Maybe this will help. Its an awning MU window from AC11

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Chazz — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:16:05 GMT

Mess around with the alignment and ganging checkboxes under the Options section of the Parameters (or it can be dinked with visually under settings/general settings).

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Chazz — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:22:48 GMT

And to maybe overstate the obvious, I'm suggesting that instead of placing one window with 3 sashes, you place 3 windows with one sash each and set them up with the appropriate ganging options so they look yummy AND schedule correctly.

BTW, Even though I have never done anything but fly over Minnesota, I feel like I know the place and it's people intimately since I've been listening to Prairie Home Companion for years.

Powdermilk Biscuits!

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Anonymous — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:49:14 GMT

Never been here before huh, then you should stop by in the winter, its not that much different than Santa Cruz !

It seems like an inefficient way to do the windows since they already have a way to make 3 sashes in one. Now we have to go back and make 3 windows. I don't get it.

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Chazz — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:07:27 GMT

tan wrote:
Never been here before huh, then you should stop by in the winter, its not that much different than Santa Cruz !

Oh you have cold winters out there too? Let me tell you, this winter was brutal. Twice I had to give up shorts AND drive with the top up! Global warming, global shmorming

tan wrote:
It seems like an inefficient way to do the windows since they already have a way to make 3 sashes in one. Now we have to go back and make 3 windows. I don't get it.

Keep your head down and don't make trouble. It's the way we do things around here....

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

David Maudlin — Fri, 16 May 2008 13:05:13 GMT

tan wrote:
It seems like an inefficient way to do the windows since they already have a way to make 3 sashes in one. Now we have to go back and make 3 windows. I don't get it.

Tan:

Using the individual units is modeling the project the way it will be built. If the window manufacturer offered a triple awning unit (as they might for other window types), then you could could put in one window and schedule it that way, but they don't, you have to order 3 windows and gang them together on site, so the individual units simply reflect this.

I know, not the answer you were looking for, but I have found this method the best way to manage the model, documentation, and what is available in the real world.

David

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Anonymous — Sat, 31 May 2008 03:16:19 GMT

If you build your window schedule using the NCS Window sch. you can have it extract any selection that you make on a window. But it does create a new column in your whole schedule and will be blank on any windows that do not have that selection.

Re: How to list multi-unit windows in a schedule

Anonymous — Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:13:37 GMT

I have kind of the same problem but reverse. I have a multi window that have to be constructed with 3 different windows, but I need that they are scheduled as one. Because they have a single metal frame around them. And factory assumes this as one window. And I just can't make work in Archicad