topic Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo in Installation & update

!Restored: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Jan 2025 13:44:12 GMT

Why oh Why is this so Graphisoft

This was Graphisoft Australia's Reply to A request for a Demo/Evaluation just Like Buying a House without seeing the Archicad PLANS.

Sorry we do not provide V10 demo CD’s only the Discover ArchiCAD V10 I sent you, however you will see a lot at the Adelaide Product Launch

See you there

Kind Regards

Stafford Hutchins
State Manager Vic+SA+TAS
GRAPHISOFT
200 Gladstone St.
South Melbourne, VIC 3205
Tel.: +61 3 9682 5256
Fax.: +61 3 9682 5257
www.graphisoft.com.au

Not good for Sales GRAPHISOFT
http://www.graphisoft.com.au/ac10promo/promo1.htm

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Dwight — Fri, 02 Jun 2006 15:21:34 GMT

You shouldn't assume that the treatment provided to Australia users through Graphisoft Australia (an independent company) is typical of the rest of the world.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Sat, 03 Jun 2006 01:18:59 GMT

Hi Dwight
True I should probably Not Assume This treatment is world wide & i Hope it is not, but if i want to purchase their products i have NO choice but deal with Grafisoft Australia, as Graphisoft (The Company) advises me to deal with my local distributor who is Appointed by Graphisoft. So Actions by an individual or Representative of Graphisoft Australia (an independent company it may be) reflects on Graphisoft (The Company World Wide) & will affect its reputation World Wide.
I can get an educational copy of archicad if i am a student Free
If i am a new prospective client i can get a demonstration copy
If i am an existing user who has an investment in the product already i am told i need to upgrade to the latest version or i will not get reasonable support without being able to test the product. I get a Discovery CD ONLY on Request
I would have thought Graphisoft (The Company) would have some influence on this. and its not like we have a choice of dealers down here & if Graphisoft (The Company) does not see a red flag here they are part of the Problem.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Link — Sun, 04 Jun 2006 23:05:23 GMT

Of course you are absolutely correct Martin. Graphisoft Australia and indeed Graphisoft HQ needs to supply anyone and everyone who asks, with a free demo version of the software. What's more it should be available by download, for those users who have broadband.

Even if you've only got one license, you've spent what 4, 5, 6, 7 thousand dollars, and you're not being treated like a 7 thousand dollar customer. Not to mention your potential worth to Graphisoft as an existing customer (the most valuable of all!) who may buy many more licenses and recommend the program to others, if only you were treated the way you deserve.

It's quite sad to hear of any ArchiCAD reseller undermining the good work of the team at GSHQ. I think there are many resellers around the world that would treat their customers more appropriately if only they had a little competition!

Things surely need to change.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:27:06 GMT

A work around for the lack of a DEMO is to use the AC10 educational link to download the software. When you install it if you don't have a key and if you don't specify it is education it will work as a demo.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Dwight — Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:35:51 GMT

"ej "the tricky one" rolon" wrote:
A work around for the lack of a DEMO is to use the AC10 educational link to download the software. When you install it if you don't have a key and if you don't specify it is education it will work as a demo.

Nyah nyah, Graphisoft Australia.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 10:58:25 GMT

Phew
I thought i might just get hammered for this view
Nice to see some support Thanks
I have been playing with the Int US version Edu it seems much more responsive than v9 on mac & windows Lots of new features & I long for the US library & its structure to be in the Aust version instead of a jumble sale approach. You have better traditional style or at least simpler windows, doors. Object pen colours & texture setup is good (you don't get brick textured reveals/ceramic posts etc in the standard template as supplied). The demo template has layers & combinations that make more sense of a concept which i have always been frustrated with.Printing a project looks & hopefully is to be a pleasure. Love tracking,& thanks Dwight I found Explore Rotate & F4.(need to read documentation more Carefully)
Just need someone with the Aust version to give us a link so as to see if its as good & what has/has not been removed/inserted.
Int US version Link
https://eduregistration.graphisoft.com/default.aspx
Link How far do you travel there is an opportunity in SA probably just an overnight stay though (We have been going to get local archicad support for 2 years now ).

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Link — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 11:55:17 GMT

Link How far do you travel there is an opportunity in SA probably just an overnight stay though (We have been going to get local archicad support for 2 years now ).

SA is not a problem, put it that way. Please PM me with details if you're serious! Or email me at link @ archilink . net.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:08:58 GMT

Hi
Link
I did not intend for you to take this seriously & am sorry if i may have offended you, or you thought i was playing a joke on you.I was NOT. I will have to be more careful in future. I also did not think you traveled this far (Australia).
I was attempting to make a Point (to Graphisoft Australia hopefully they read these forums) of the fact that i was getting replies & free support from an thoughtful ArchiCAD trainer Online, When we have been promised by Graphisoft Australia's Service Manager for the last 2 years we were getting a local support representative in SA & received none.(These forums support us unsupported users) I appreciate their replies & advice.
Again i apologize & hope i did not offend.
Regards
Martin

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Petros Ioannou — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:19:09 GMT

Martin ,
read Link's location:
International!
Besides as I recall:

http://www.graphisoft.com/community/envisions/2005_02_link.html

he is australian!

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 13:50:33 GMT

Petros wrote:
Martin ,
read Link's location:
International!
Besides as I recall:

http://www.graphisoft.com/community/envisions/2005_02_link.html

he is australian!

Last I heard he was in NZ. Where are you these days Link?

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Jefferson — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 15:25:00 GMT

he's undercover.............he'd have to kill you if he told you where is is! GS AU probably just put out a contract on him

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Link — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 21:29:59 GMT

Ha! What a commotion this caused!

Please don't worry about it Martin - I get enquiries all the time! Right now I am in Noosa, Australia. I'm here with my wife showing her my wonderful 'hometown' and we are just loving it. I am really just taking some time to concentrate on upgrading my training material for ArchiCAD 10, although I am also in discussions with potential clients in the Middle East and back in the US.

I was actually approached by GS Australia, but I haven't heard back from their good selves for a while. Maybe they're too busy out supporting the locals?

Trust me - no offense taken. In fact I got a bit of a laugh out if it. You're trying to say things that a lot of people are thinking, but just don't want to say online!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Jun 2006 22:54:27 GMT

Thanks Petros
Nice line Jefferson
Hi Link
I have just read your CV Very impressed
I would like to discuss a decent Ac10 Template setup for small & large Residential Projects In Win & Mac enviroments GAust are Probably just Checking you out. They don't act unless there is something in it for them.(MONEY & LOTS OF IT)

You're trying to say things that a lot of people are thinking, but just don't want to say online!

Never stoped me before ain't stopping now, They know what i think Always.
Seriously though if i could afford it i would get some on site training. Hell it would be real live training not like the one day of free training for upgrading by GA which they gave us for v9 (But only if you come to Sydney/Melbourne & oh Forgot it expired last month) Or as i currently have just been offered a Discount if i upgrade before 30 june When the product launch is not until 6PM the 29 june in SA. (guess i blew that)
Enjoy your stay in (Aus Link)a(new Business Name maybe)

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 01:07:26 GMT

It took some doing but thanks to all who helped.

AC 10 INT (815)
MAC G5 2.3 Dual Processor 5 Gig Ram
Dual 19inch Lcd's / Pursuing a Mac book Pro 17inch now.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:07:11 GMT

Martin wrote:
Pursuing a Mac book Pro 17inch now.

Good luck catching one. They're mighty quick.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Dwight — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:12:48 GMT

but soon:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1797

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:23:26 GMT

Dwight wrote:
but soon:

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1797

What has that to do with MacBook Pros? Are you just pumping your post count (angling for some extra Forints?)???

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Dwight — Fri, 16 Jun 2006 07:37:12 GMT

Fine, if he needs a laptop, but I am simply reminding that REAL machines are coming soon.

Re: No ArchiCAD V10 Demo

Anonymous — Sat, 17 Jun 2006 14:45:43 GMT

Dwight wrote:
Fine, if he needs a laptop, but I am simply reminding that REAL machines are coming soon.

Are you saying that REAL MEN don't use laptops while they eat quiche?