topic Re: display options - line weight in Installation & update

display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 01:33:46 GMT

when i set line weight in display options to "true weight" the effect is miniscule compared to when set at "hair lines". its a useless setting to me because when i get to plotmaker and view line weights there they are represented correctly and its always a surprise.

this is a real problem for me.

donald mac donald
mac, g5, OX 10.3 V9

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 09:51:17 GMT

Remember that he screen is a low res device compared to printed matter. You need to zoom to 2 - 4 time actual size the really see line weights accurately on screen.

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 12:26:07 GMT

Matthew Lohden said:

Remember that he screen is a low res device compared to printed matter. You need to zoom to 2 - 4 time actual size the really see line weights accurately on screen.

I don't accept your explanation.

It is true that in archicad you have to zoom way in o see any line weight differences but even then the weights are not accurately presented.

I don't have to zoom in like that in other programs like say illustrator, photo shop, rudimentary 2d drawing programs.

Also, isn't it interesting that that in plotmaker, on that same low res screen, i don't have to zoom in at all : the line weight differences are completely apparent.

Its a problem that should be fixed.

donald mac donald
mac g5, archicad v9

Re: display options - line weight

TomWaltz — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:10:48 GMT

Donald wrote:
Matthew Lohden said:

Remember that he screen is a low res device compared to printed matter. You need to zoom to 2 - 4 time actual size the really see line weights accurately on screen.

I don't accept your explanation.

It is true that in archicad you have to zoom way in o see any line weight differences but even then the weights are not accurately presented.

I don't have to zoom in like that in other programs like say illustrator, photo shop, rudimentary 2d drawing programs.

Also, isn't it interesting that that in plotmaker, on that same low res screen, i don't have to zoom in at all : the line weight differences are completely apparent.

Its a problem that should be fixed.

donald mac donald
mac g5, archicad v9

At 100% Zoom, the screen should look almost like the actual plot. 100% Zoom is a litte closer than most people work, but it works fine for me. Does yours not work?

That's assuming that your pen weights are actually set up in Archicad as well as Plotmaker. Have you checked that they are set the same yet?

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:38:03 GMT

at 100% zoom, display options set to true line weight all the line weights look the same even though the pen weights as set in archicad are very different. i've checked the manuel and it says i should see the difference. i do not.

in plotmaker i see the difference. but not in archicad. i don't see how setting archicad and plotmaker pen weights the same would change this situation. my problem is in archicad, not plotmaker.

donald mac donald
mac g5 archicad v9

Re: display options - line weight

TomWaltz — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 14:49:53 GMT

Donald wrote:
at 100% zoom, display options set to true line weight all the line weights look the same even though the pen weights as set in archicad are very different. i've checked the manuel and it says i should see the difference. i do not.

in plotmaker i see the difference. but not in archicad. i don't see how setting archicad and plotmaker pen weights the same would change this situation. my problem is in archicad, not plotmaker.

donald mac donald
mac g5 archicad v9

The pen settings in Archicad would need to be the same as Plotmaker's in order for them to look the same. It's kind of a reverse matching: Make sure Archicad's pen weights/thicknesses match the ones being used in Plotmaker so that they look the same.

Are you saying that when you zoom in, the lines look correct in Archicad? Or they do not look correct in Archicad ever?

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:00:13 GMT

they do not look correct in archicad ever. that is the problem.

Re: display options - line weight

TomWaltz — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:23:07 GMT

OK. Are you sure the Pen Weights are set in Archicad? (found under Options > Attribute Settings > Pens & Colors)

That seems like the most likely culprit.

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 17:54:01 GMT

yes, they are all individually set to different wieghts. that is how come they read as they should in plotmaker.

they just will not read in archicad, even w/ true line weights set.

is there any other possible setting that would cause this?

thanks,
donald mac donald

mac g5, cinema display v9

Re: display options - line weight

Dwight — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:16:21 GMT

Drawing scale - if you are working at 1:1, different line weight is hard to see.

Re: display options - line weight

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 18:34:45 GMT

there is no differece with line weights on my screen whther its set to "true weight" or "hair lines". no difference at all with line weights.

my build is 2045 USA. V9 mac g5.

it doesn't matter what scale the drawing is viewed at.

donald mac donald

Re: display options - line weight

TomWaltz — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:12:09 GMT

I'm really not sure what else to recommend. It's always worked fine for me.

Re: display options - line weight

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:59:39 GMT

Donald,

In your 2D settings, have you enabled 2D acceleration (OpenGL)? If so, turn it offf and see what happens. There is really almost no advantage to enabling OpenGL in 2D ... and it could be that there is a problem there that is causing what you see.

In 8.1, this was a Preference. In 9, this is in the Work Environment under 2D Redraw Options. Make sure you have not checked "Optimize drawing method for high performance display". (Or, what the heck, if it isn't checked, try checking it and see if that helps.)

Karl