topic Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!? in Installation & update

A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

agroni — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 11:44:23 GMT

Hi there,

I was just wondering if there is a way to remove the shortcut for the F1 Help menu??
I use the F2, F3 amd F4 for other functions and it happens often that i touch the F1 and the Help Window starts. It is very annoying and i would like to remove it! Tried with the shortcuts in archicad but this one is blocked

Can someone give me a hint?
thanx

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Link — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:38:20 GMT

Nope. It is a non-customizable shortcut. You can check this and others of it's kind by Showing the shortcuts in a Browser, through your Work Environemnt settings. They're at the bottom of the list.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Anonymous — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:39:30 GMT

You should give a hint of your ArchiCAD version and operating system first ... on Mac you can override some of these.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

agroni — Thu, 13 Dec 2007 13:44:47 GMT

Juha wrote:
You should give a hint of your ArchiCAD version and operating system first ... on Mac you can override some of these.

I work on Archicad 11 and on Windows XP

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Link — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 04:45:07 GMT

Juha wrote:
You should give a hint of your ArchiCAD version and operating system first ... on Mac you can override some of these.

Hi Juha,

Can you please clarify which of the non-customizable shortcuts you can override? I hate giving crap advice.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Rod Jurich — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:18:02 GMT

Link wrote:
Juha wrote:
/..... ... on Mac you can override some of these.
Can you please clarify which of the non-customizable shortcuts you can override? I hate giving crap advice.

Speaking only about the F1 key.

Link, Juha is correct, in that on MAC you can assign a shortcut for the F1 key.

I've used this key to Toggle - Set Reference Level for some time now.

There have been other posts I believe, saying that 3rd party apps may be able to override the F1 key in windows.
Maybe someone from the "dark side" will comment

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Link — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 05:26:35 GMT

Thanks Rod

I guess in relation to F1 on a Mac, that makes sense since the shortcut for help is Command+?. But are you actually able to overwrite the Help shortcut? Or overwrite any other non-customizable keys?

Cheers,
Link.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 07:28:12 GMT

Hello Link,

Link wrote:
I hate giving crap advice.

I think that no advice should be given without proper knowledge of the problem -> as you see in this case the platforms differ greatly.

I think that you should update your signature as well as the others who have 'null' signature.

Here are a couple of screen captures of the Mac key customization (sorry for the finnish language).

Customization is made in the 'System preferences' -> 'Keyboard and mouse'. Method works with function keys too.

Hope this helps + all the best regards, Juha

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Rod Jurich — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:31:05 GMT

Juha wrote:
/..Here are a couple of screen captures of the Mac key customization (sorry for the finnish language).
Customization is made in the 'System preferences' -> 'Keyboard and mouse'. Method works with function keys too./..

Juha thanks for the System prefs tip, now that I'm using dell screens it has enabled me to have F14 & F15 to add to my short cut schemes.

Sorry, no images visible, Juha.

Link wrote:
/....I guess in relation to F1 on a Mac, that makes sense since the shortcut for help is Command+?./.....

Link, this is odd, as I've never tried to use that help shortcut in AC 'til now. And using the default WE there is no response to Command+?.
Command+/, is all that is possible by way of key input, but that has no effect at all.

But none of this will help agroni's F1 windows problem.

Finally, have had no need to try overriding any other locked shortcuts.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Ben Odonnell — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:36:18 GMT

Rod,
I can confirm your problem isn't local. It doesn't work here either.

Ben

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Link — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:42:59 GMT

I can't see any attached images from Juha either, but it doesn't matter. I thought were were talking about inside AC only.

Are you guys using Mac laptops by any chance. They don't have the ? (Help) key like the desktops do they?

Gidday Ben - hope all is well up there mate. The Aussie summer is missing you.

Cheers,
Link.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Rod Jurich — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 08:46:20 GMT

Ben wrote:
/..
I can confirm your problem isn't local. It doesn't work here either.

Cheers Ben, I trust you have polished your skis

And never used a laptop Link. All towers here.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

agroni — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:06:52 GMT

I see that this thing is possible on MAC...lucky you
Is there any hope for Windows????
cheers

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Ben Odonnell — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:23:17 GMT

Link wrote:
Gidday Ben - hope all is well up there mate. The Aussie summer is missing you.
Cheers,
Link.

Gidday mate,
Yes all is well up here thanks. Believe me I am missing too mate. How's things down there? How have the waves been?

Rod wrote:
Cheers Ben, I trust you have polished your skis

No snow in the southern part of Sweden yet But yes skis are ready and waiting

Link I'm using a laptop (MAC book Pro) with an external keyboard, so it work in the same way as a work station.
The strange thing is that you can redefine some of the non-customizable keys but not all of them.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Link — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 09:38:20 GMT

Ben wrote:
How's things down there? How have the waves been?

Life is good. Waves good, but lots of sharks. Even great whites up this far!

Ben wrote:
Link I'm using a laptop (MAC book Pro) with an external keyboard, so it work in the same way as a work station.
The strange thing is that you can redefine some of the non-customizable keys but not all of them.

But are you redefining them in AC? And are they actually overwrting the original shortcuts? If so, I think we should write a few stern words to GS about their 'non-customizable' keyboard shortcuts!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: A way to remove the F1 Help Shortcut?!?!?

Ben Odonnell — Fri, 14 Dec 2007 12:53:28 GMT

Sound nice!
Heaps of sharks hey?

No no it a system override. It can't be done in ArchiCAD. In the system settings you can choose any program and asign short cuts to any menu/ Menu item.

Cheers.
Ben