topic Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent in Installation & update

Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:57:59 GMT

SUMMARY
Having installed the last hotfix, 1040, my sections become transparent (and useless). I'm talking about all walls etc.
DESCRIPTION
…. (se above)
If anyone can reproduce, this is a bug.
I have R11 w/ hotfix 1033 on another PC. No problem there
REPRODUCE
Try this:
- Install hotfix 1040
- Open a section.
- Rebuild from model (if not Auto-rebuild)

Håkon Alm
ArchiCAD 10 INT (1188) Win XP sp2
ArchiCAD 11 INT (1040) Win XP sp2
Intel Core 2 Duo 6600 / ATI Radeon X1950 / Dual LCD screens HP 30" + Dell 24" LCD

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 09:35:59 GMT

This is how it looks

Håkon Alm

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 08 Aug 2007 18:42:27 GMT

First trouble-shooting questions:

What graphics card is in the machine that does not work? vs in the machine that works? Or, are both the Radeon X1950?

Have you checked on the machine that does not work to see if there is a newer display driver available from the manufacturer?

Karl

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:19:47 GMT

This bug is probably somehow related to Cadimage Door and Window builder for AC11. (DW)
I have uninstalled and then reinstalled AC11 + hotfix 1033 + 1040.
Sections are (was) then back to normal.

After reinstalling Door and Window builder for AC11 section are again transparent. Then I tried removing the apx-files and all DW windows/doors from the project (file) but section are still transparent!!! .... another reinstall?

H. Alm

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

gpowless — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 11:25:19 GMT

I've had the same problem with AC 10. In order to restore the sections (and in some cases elevation views) I have to "bump" the section line by 1/8". Then it regenerates a new section. However, it often returns and I have to repeat the fix a number of times.

I never thought of it being Door Builder. I may have to dump that add-on altogether since it never seems to work right anyway.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 18:25:54 GMT

gpowless wrote:
........ I may have to dump that add-on altogether since it never seems to work right anyway.

Addons, Addons, Addons. shish!

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:45:52 GMT

We are aware that ArchiCAD is having some problems generating 3D and Section views on some computers. We don't know what's causing this, but we have contacted Graphisoft about it. We will keep you posted.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 04:56:34 GMT

gpowless wrote:
I've had the same problem with AC 10. In order to restore the sections (and in some cases elevation views) I have to "bump" the section line by 1/8". Then it regenerates a new section. However, it often returns and I have to repeat the fix a number of times.

I never thought of it being Door Builder. I may have to dump that add-on altogether since it never seems to work right anyway.

We would be very happy to help you. Please drop us an email at customercare@cadimagetools.com.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Wed, 05 Sep 2007 22:50:11 GMT

Cadimage wrote:
We are aware that ArchiCAD is having some problems generating 3D and Section views on some computers. We don't know what's causing this, but we have contacted Graphisoft about it. We will keep you posted.

Any progress??
My sections and elevations are still useless!

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

David Shorter — Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:24:12 GMT

You could be a long way from the origin or it may be that you have something which is miles away from the rest of the model making the 3D bounding box very large

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:37:11 GMT

No, I'm not far from origin, - max 50 m.

I know a lot about problems which relates to being far from origin because our local (Norwegian) surveyor coordinates is around (-15 000,+1 205 000 m). AC can't handle that / real coordinates in site plans.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 21:49:52 GMT

Graphisoft and / or CadImage really needs to have a look at this .. Now
My 8000$ (50000 Nkr)program doesn't work!!

I have tried the following

Opened file in version 11.1040
Erased everything, except walls.
Sections / elevations still transparent.

Unloaded all libraries.
Sections / elevations still transparent.

Opened file in version 11.1033 (on same PC).
Section / elevation still transparent.

Opened file in version 11.970 (on same PC).
Section / elevation still transparent.

Opened file in version 11.970 (on another PC which hasn't got DW builder installed).
Section / elevation OK !!!!!!

Fresh install of 11.970 on first PC.
Opened file in version 11.970 (DW builder not reinstalled).
Section / elevation OK !!!!!!

Updated to 11.1033.
Open file in version 11.1033 (DW builder still not reinstalled)
Section / elevation OK !!!!!!

..11.1040 next ..

My best guess is that this problem has something to do with errors / bugs in Cadimage add on files (apx) and/or data CadImage puts in the registry (windows).

I really liked DW builder much better before. It used to be a library, but has developed in to an add-on with activation. .... and some serious problems?

.. now I have wasted a whole working day on this issue ...

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Andy Thomson — Sat, 15 Sep 2007 12:57:30 GMT

That is awful. We use DWB on 11.1040 - on OSX and XP - have never had this problem (but others). You are running XP? Do you have a mac you can compare with?

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:45:37 GMT

.... nothing happens?

This problem still surfaces from time to time in release 1114.
Will Graphisoft ever fix this?

ArchiCAD 11 INT (1033->1040->1086->1112->1114) Win XP sp2
Intel Core2 Quad 6700 / ATI Radeon HD 3870 / Dual LCD screens HP 30" + Dell 24" LCD
and
ArchiCAD 7+8+9+10 INT on Win XP sp2

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Thomas Holm — Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:56:02 GMT

HAlm wrote:
Will Graphisoft ever fix this?

Seems to me this one is on Cadimage's table.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 19:27:42 GMT

I really liked DW builder much better before. It used to be a library, but has developed in to an add-on with activation. .... and some serious problems? ]

Door and Window Builder is still just a library. The add-on provides an update facility and scheduling, but will have no effect on sections.

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:13:57 GMT

… This problem still occurs in R12 build 2675, but I have at least found a way to fix it:
a) Open a 3D view
b) Change 3D windows settings to
Internal engine
Contours best
c) In special menu select
Show Special Lines
(This should turn off special lines?)
Why does a "Show Special Lines" in 3D fix a section? I don't know.
Why/how is "Show Special Lines" in 3D turn on? I don't know.

Better in R13?

Re: Bug / R11 Build 1040 / Sections becomes transparent

Anonymous — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:22:02 GMT

We are experiencing a similar issue in AC12-2675 with placed modules.
Multiple instances of a module are placed in a file forming the building. Some flipped, some not. On opening elevation some walls become transparent, but not all walls of that placed module.
If elevation is closed and reopened, different walls go transparent.
Attempted the stretching the section marker limits some times this will correct problem other times it will not. Deleting modules and then a undo will also correct for that viewing of the elevation.

Same files also have placed modules that have been trimmed with Boolean Operators. But these are not the ones with transparent walls. After updating republishing Module and updating, Boolean Operators no longer trim walls.

As a side note this is only happening on machine, we have 35. All intel macs all with the same AC Build.

Any thoughts would be great !

Thanks,