topic Re: Vista in Installation & update

Vista

Anonymous — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:10:34 GMT

Hi All,

I'm looking at buying a new laptop. I seem to recall in the past that certain individuals had problems with vista. I was wondering, now that Vista's been out for a while, if anyone has any input as to any compatibility issues. I'm using XP Pro now and AC 11.

Thanks,
Doug

Re: Vista

vistasp — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 03:23:02 GMT

Most people complain about driver issues, Doug. You might want to check if all your peripherals have working drivers for Vista.

Re: Vista

ci-JoshOs — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:52:28 GMT

the only problems are unavailable drivers for old/weird peripherals, and underpowered hardware.

Don't bother with vista unless you have at least 2 cores at over 2.5Ghz, at least 4Gb of RAM, and a decent Graphics Card.

This thing here would easily outperform most Workstation desktop machines. Just throw in some more RAM:
http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/nz/en/sm/WF06b/321957-321957-64295-3329741-3329741-3784202-3817622.html

I've been using Vista for a couple of months now and I'm very happy with it.

Re: Vista

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:33:42 GMT

4thorns (and others)
It's not just the economy that's driving the heavy discounts I'm seeing.
If you haven't bought yet and can wait a bit, a whole new slue of HP lap tops with quad cores is about the hit the market.
Right after they get rid of all the duo's at xmas and Jan "white" sales.

The heavy discounts tipped me off to ask the right questions at Frys and others.

Bier

Re: Vista

KeesW — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:49:06 GMT

Henry
What is the go with 4GB RAM for Vista? I thought that 32 bit processors could only handle 3GB - am I mistaken?

Re: Vista

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 14:07:46 GMT

Your processor is 64-bit.
According to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/64-bit), the following processors are all 64-bit:

# AMD's AMD64 extensions (used in Athlon 64, Opteron, Sempron, Turion 64 and Phenom processors)
# Intel's Intel 64 extensions (used in newer Celeron, Pentium 4, Pentium D, Xeon, and Core 2 processors

If you are also using 64-bit Vista then that should be fine.
I am currently using Vista 32-bit and the system sees only 3.2 GB of RAM.

Re: Vista

KeesW — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:24:39 GMT

I know what I've got and that it uses the full 4GB RAM. HenryPootel remarked that one should get 4GB RAM, without referring to the OS and I was puzzled. My wife is looking buying a Dell or Mac laptop (she does heavy duty editing and desktop publishing) and Dell are offering 4GB installed, or making it a cheap option, for normal non-64 bit Vista. I just wondered why one would want 4GB if the OS only uses 3.

Re: Vista

ci-JoshOs — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:30:33 GMT

Basically, I would only consider running Vista on at least 4Gb or RAM, and seeing as you need Vista-64 to do that, then I would only ever consider Vista-64.
I don't know why people persist in selling machines with 32-bit operating systems on them. 64-bit should be standard with the option of 32-bit if you know that for some reason you can't use 64.
Sorry I wasn't clear. I've been using 64bit OSes for the last several years and have never looked back.

Re: Vista

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:35:22 GMT

I'm currently running AC11 and am about to get a new computer, if I get Vista 64Bit will it work ok with AC11? Likely computer specs are below, what do you think?

Cheers

Intel S775 Core 2 Q9550 2.83GHz Quad-Core CPU
ASUS S775 P5Q-SE-R Core 2 Motherboard
DDR2 4GB Geil 800MHz Dual Channel DDR2 Kit
Internal All-in-1 Memory Card Reader Black
500GB Seagate 7200rpm 32M Serial ATA HDD
Leadtek nVidia Quadro FX570 PCIe Video Card
Antec Three Hundred Case (No PS)
Seventeam 620W ST-620PAF Power Supply
Logitech Cordless Desktop MX-5500 Revolution
LG 22x DVD Burner SATA Black OEM
Integrated Sound Card
Gigabyte GP-S4600 Speakers
Integrated Gigabit Network Connection
MS Windows Vista Business 64bit OEM
FDD/Card Reader Mount 3.5inch To 5.25inch Black

Re: Vista

ci-JoshOs — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 01:37:27 GMT

Yes, It'll work fine, but you'll need ArchiCAD 12 to be able to use all 4 cores.
It's worth the upgrade just for the speed boost.

Re: Vista

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 04:47:23 GMT

Thanks mate, will be upgrading to AC12 in the next couple of months.

Re: Vista

KeesW — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:10:05 GMT

Remember that Vista 64 is unable to use the VR functions within ArchiCad. Apparently Apple (the inventors of VR) haven't yet written the drivers to make it work with 64 bit window OS's. And Graphisoft obviously don't have, or don't use, enough clout to make them do so.

Re: Vista

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 13:03:53 GMT

For the VR take in consideration that Apple is writing the next, full 64 bit version of Quicktime (Quicktime X if I remember correctly) that will be released sometime this year with the 10.6 upgrade. That might be why there has not being any improvements on the older version.

Re: Vista

ci-JoshOs — Sun, 08 Feb 2009 19:42:09 GMT

Maybe, but we have been waiting about 4 years for a 64-bit edition of Quicktime. I hope it's worth it.