topic Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC in Installation & update

DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 25 Oct 2010 21:04:57 GMT

We have found that installing the latest "Java for Mac OSX 10.6 Update 3" (this one) causes numerous problems for ArchiCAD:

- In ArchiCAD 13, you will not be able to save/publish to PDF format anymore
- You will not be able to submit crash reports anymore (both on 13 and 14)

If you have not installed this update yet, please do not. We are working on finding a solution in case you already did.

I'll keep you posted on this problem

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

owen — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 00:06:04 GMT

Hmm .. is this:

http://developer.apple.com/library/mac/#releasenotes/Java/JavaSnowLeopardUpdate3LeopardUpdate8RN/NewandNoteworthy/NewandNoteworthy.html

going to pose a problem for ArchiCAD? Assume Java will disappear from OSX as of 10.7 early next year (i.e not installed with). Either Sun or a 3rd party will need to develop an OSX version of Java as this will no longer be provided by Apple.

"As of the release of Java for Mac OS X 10.6 Update 3, the Java runtime ported by Apple and that ships with Mac OS X is deprecated. Developers should not rely on the Apple-supplied Java runtime being present in future versions of Mac OS X.

The Java runtime shipping in Mac OS X 10.6 Snow Leopard, and Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard, will continue to be supported and maintained through the standard support cycles of those products."

cheers,

owen

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:54:05 GMT

All the details of this problem are documented in this wiki article:

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Bugs/CannotSavePdfAfterJavaUpdate

GRAPHISOFT is working on releasing a Hotfix for ArchiCAD 13 and 14 as soon as technically possible.

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Fri, 29 Oct 2010 21:17:11 GMT

We have solutions for the Java problem now. Download the Patches for:
ArchiCAD 13
ArchiCAD 14

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:51:21 GMT

That was fast, thanks a lot!

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:52:14 GMT

Is GS working on a fix for ArchiCAD 12? It would be greatly appreciated.

Also, does anyone know if it's possible to uninstall this Mac update?

Thank you,
Doug

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:54:47 GMT

It is not possible to uninstall updates on a Mac. We will fix it in 12 and 11 too in some way, we are working on the details.

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Mon, 01 Nov 2010 23:56:56 GMT

Thank you for the quick reply! I'm looking forward to a fix for us laggards (still using AC 11 or 12).

I had got the idea that uninstalling on a Mac can't be done, but I thought I'd check here anyway.

Doug

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

David Maudlin — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 12:50:46 GMT

Gergely:

One of the posts on this bug mentioned OSX 10.5, but I do not see it now. Is OSX 10.5 not affected? I have avoided this Java update to date.

Thanks,

David

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 02 Nov 2010 15:11:55 GMT

We originally thought 10.5 is also affected (same update was released for 10.5), but our investigation revealed that it is not. So, 10.6 only.

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

David Maudlin — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:01:36 GMT

Groovy. Thanks.

David

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:01:23 GMT

I use v12 and as for now almost any publishing attempt will crash ArchiCad. This goes for both PDF and DWG. Even the proposed workaround (printing to PDF directly from the layout/saving as dwg from the model) results in similar problems on one workstation.

Anyway; this is a very severe problem that has crippled our office in regards of delivering our drawings in in time.

We desperately need a hotfix for v12. When will it come?

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 03 Nov 2010 16:07:20 GMT

Jon,

It will come soon, and the best workaround until that is documented here:
http://archicadwiki.com/Bugs/CannotSavePdfAfterJavaUpdate

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Nov 2010 12:21:17 GMT

Please hurry with version 12 patch!!! Printing large sets is a real pain in the youknowwhat at the moment!

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 23:08:21 GMT

We have released further fixes for the Mac Java problem:

For ArchiCAD 12 and Start Edition 2009:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/AC12_PatchForJavaUpdate.html
For ArchiCAD 11 and Start Edition 2008:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/downloads/AC11_PatchForJavaUpdate.html

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:26:58 GMT

I have downloaded the patch, but it can't find an installed version of ArchiCAD on my machine?!

Help!

Its very much installed, I've been using it all morning!

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:46:35 GMT

Jim,

Please indicate your ArchiCAD version and Operating system in your signature. That will greatly help us help you.

On Mac, ArchiCAD is (by default) installed under ~/Applications/Graphisoft
On Windows, it's under Program Files/Graphisoft

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:03:13 GMT

hello,

it cant find a installed archicad on my system, too.

but yesterday i have seen on friends mac that the patch works. now i´m confused a little why it doesn´t works on my mac.

archicad 13 is installed on os x 10.6.4

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 09:18:38 GMT

"gkmethy" wrote:

Jim,

Please indicate your ArchiCAD version and Operating system in your signature. That will greatly help us help you.

Information now in signature..

Thanks

Re: DO NOT INSTALL JAVA UPDATE 3 ON MAC

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:09:06 GMT

is there nobody who is able to help ?