topic Re: magic mouse! in Installation & update

magic mouse!

aahatimo — Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:24:04 GMT

http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
looks great! will it work w/ ac?
i miss my multitouch pad when using apple ext keyboard, was considering some other input device, this may be it.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:27:16 GMT

i order one straight away! - then thought: will it work with AC?? i hope so.

it doesn't seem to have a third button, so may not be able to pan?

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 20:52:19 GMT

Someone order this and get back to me! I've gone through 3 "Mighty Mouse" because the little scroll ball gets gunk in there and it won't scroll anymore. They are not made to be taken apart, and Apple's cleaning instructions only work for so long. I probably scroll 5 miles a day so that's important for me.

You can scroll with this mouse and I would guess that just clicking, holding and dragging the mouse would make it pan but I'm not sure...

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:04:20 GMT

Steven wrote:
Someone order this and get back to me! I've gone through 3 "Mighty Mouse" because the little scroll ball gets gunk in there and it won't scroll anymore. ..

have done. yes i've been through 2 mighty mice, they r great (until the wheel breaks!)

Re: magic mouse!

aahatimo — Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:01:14 GMT

ordered mine earlier today.
will see how it works w/ ac sometime next week.
still using my 4+ year old kensington bt pilot mouse, this may replace it.

Re: magic mouse!

Stress Co_ — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 02:31:40 GMT

Steven wrote:
I've gone through 3 "Mighty Mouse" because the little scroll ball gets gunk in there and it won't scroll anymore. They are not made to be taken apart, and Apple's cleaning instructions only work for so long.

As a last resort.... you can disassemble them to clean the track ball. A google search will provide many HOW TO VIDEOS.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 12:07:15 GMT

Stress wrote:
As a last resort.... you can disassemble them to clean the track ball. A google search will provide many HOW TO VIDEOS.

I've seen these and tried it once with no luck...

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 20:09:38 GMT

Steven wrote:
I've seen these and tried it once with no luck...

yes it's really difficult getting that bottom ring off!

Re: magic mouse!

Marton Kiss — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:31:05 GMT

Hi,

Here are our brief test results using ArchiCAD with Magic Mouse:
As the third button is gone, functions like pan and orbit are difficult to use – mouse gestures do not work with ArchiCAD, and there is no way to “imitate” the third button in the mouse settings. The only (cumbersome) workaround is to assign a custom keyboard shortcut to pan/zoom.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:50:39 GMT

Marton wrote:
Hi,

Here are our brief test results using ArchiCAD with Magic Mouse:
As the third button is gone, functions like pan and orbit are difficult to use – mouse gestures do not work with ArchiCAD, and there is no way to “imitate” the third button in the mouse settings. The only (cumbersome) workaround is to assign a custom keyboard shortcut to pan/zoom.

This sounds like a big "NO."

Can't pan? What good is that!

Re: magic mouse!

aahatimo — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:10:29 GMT

agreed, i hope apple comes out w/ a software update soon! it appears this is only a device to get minimal trackpad like gesture on imacs. not sure why apple would remove features...
steermouse may rise to the task in november after they have the magic:
http://plentycom.jp/en/steermouse/news.html
on a similar note, how does one pan in ac using the mbp trackpad, have tried many combos only get zoom in and out. searched ac-talk, no result.
thanks!

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:19:51 GMT

gutted! i was really looking forward to it. It seems apple might have even taken a step backwards, as surely this will effect a lot of different apps.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:53:40 GMT

sdb wrote:
gutted! i was really looking forward to it. It seems apple might have even taken a step backwards, as surely this will effect a lot of different apps.

I agree completely.

BTW, I'm unfamiliar with the use of the word "gutted" but it sound great! What would be the american english translation? D A M N?

I think I will start using it around my friends and see what they say. Maybe I will start a trend..

Re: magic mouse!

owen — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:59:45 GMT

Yeah it looks great .. but as soon as i saw it used trackpad-like swiping for scrolling I knew it wasn't going to be good for most graphics/CAD apps - no tactile feedback so it probably wouldn't be as precise.

The mouse-formerly-known-as-Mighty-Mouse (now just Apple Mouse) just looks more useable for the majority of applications that have not been written to make use of gestures as the Apple programs have. The only problem I have with that mouse is the trackball getting gunked up and not being removable to clean. They should use a laser to track the ball rather than mechanical - it really wouldn't have made any difference to their cost and would have eliminated most of the problem

The supposedly improved performance of the laser tracking the surface under the mouse looks good though - i find the Apple Mouse isn't very good on smooth surfaces (actually doesnt work most of the time)

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:04:26 GMT

Steven wrote:
BTW, I'm unfamiliar with the use of the word "gutted" but it sound great! What would be the american english translation? D A M N?.

haha yea god luck with it.

Maybe they could bring an update so 3 fingers would be like panning? eg for right click you use 2 on the track pad, so 3 for panning would maybe work? it is a shame though.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:16:31 GMT

I have always made the space bar the keyboard short cut for pan since my left hand is always on the keyboard. So hold down the space bar and move the mouse to pan.

Re: magic mouse!

aahatimo — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:36:29 GMT

jeff,
will try to do that when magic mouse appears.
can you pan w/ your mbp trackpad?
sdb,
maybe another button / corner will be able to be programed for 3rd button, eventually.

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 22:51:01 GMT

Yes. The full method it:
1. press and release space bar
2. click with mouse or trackpad in the window
3. move mouse or slide finger on trackpad to pan
4. click mouse or click ESC to stop panning

Re: magic mouse!

aahatimo — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:12:51 GMT

thanks jeff!
took me a bit to figure out where 'pan' command could be linked to shortcut (alphabetical file structure in we). now spacebar lets me pan w/ trackpad.
may be a magic work around, cool!

Re: magic mouse!

Anonymous — Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:16:46 GMT

Jeff wrote:
Yes. The full method it:
1. press and release space bar
2. click with mouse or trackpad in the window
3. move mouse or slide finger on trackpad to pan
4. click mouse or click ESC to stop panning

Ok great. this could be a good work around. Mine hasn't been delivered yet, so can't try it out!