topic Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD in Installation & update

Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:14:56 GMT

Hi all.

So I'm running ArchiCAD 14. I tried to simply copy a drawing view of a note within Layout that is to appear on several sheets (copy and paste that's been done MILLIONS of times) but my Mac gives me an error message. I know I'm low on virtual memory... is this the problem? See image attached.

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Jun 2011 21:05:44 GMT

Do you have any other programs running at the same time that might be pulling too much memory? I-tunes can be a big memory hog for systems. Try shutting down a couple and see if you keep getting the same error.

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

owen — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:07:14 GMT

In Activity Monitor check the following:

1. Free RAM
2. Real Memory used by ArchiCAD

If 1 is low (i.e in low 100s of MB) then you have insufficient system memory available - try closing some apps (sort by Real Mem in Activity Monitor to find the memory hogs)

If 2 is 2.5GB+ then your problem is the AC file itself (well its lack of 64bit on Mac .. but i digress). My experience is that above 2.5GB of RAM in use by ArchiCAD and you are sailing close to the wind - messages like those you are experiencing are common. Once you get one of these you pretty much have to quit your AC session and reopen - RAM for that session is toast (its full and AC cannot clean it out)

hth

os

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 01:51:33 GMT

Thanks owen. I'll check out the "Real Memory Used by ArchiCAD". And, Draftinguru, I have never had the problem witth insufficient RAM due to too many programs. I forgot to mention that this particular .pln file is avout 4x bigger than I've ever used. It's almost 450 MB. Noot sure why... That's a whole other discussion. There barely any elements in only two stories, one worksheet and two layouts.

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:32:02 GMT

owen wrote:
In Activity Monitor check the following:

1. Free RAM
2. Real Memory used by ArchiCAD

If 1 is low (i.e in low 100s of MB) then you have insufficient system memory available - try closing some apps (sort by Real Mem in Activity Monitor to find the memory hogs)

If 2 is 2.5GB+ then your problem is the AC file itself (well its lack of 64bit on Mac .. but i digress). My experience is that above 2.5GB of RAM in use by ArchiCAD and you are sailing close to the wind - messages like those you are experiencing are common. Once you get one of these you pretty much have to quit your AC session and reopen - RAM for that session is toast (its full and AC cannot clean it out)

hth

os

So... I checked the numbers. I opened the file that's been giving me trouble, tried to copy a drawing view of a note within Layout, and at the same time viewed the Real Mem in the Activity Monitor.

As I tried to perform the copy command, the ArchiCAD "process" spiked at 1.66GB Real Mem, added to all the other "processes" which equaled about 425MB... That puts the total Real Mem at only approximately 2.30GB.

Also, I've (repeatedly) tried to quit the ArchiCAD session and re-open the file but no luck. I never had this problem with this iMac. Is it not powerful enough? See my signature. Are their settings within ArchiCAD or the iMac's hardware that can be adjusted?

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 15:36:48 GMT

to owen...

Your machine has 12GB RAM and you are able to use 4.95GB of Real Mem.

My machine has 8GB RAM but I am NOT able to use 2.30GB...

My math may be rusty but those ratios don't equal at all.

12 : 5 (approximately equals) = 8 : 3.33

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Aaron Bourgoin — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 18:11:25 GMT

I recently had some issues with file permissions while transferring files across hard drives. I got error messages related to "memory" issues. The prescription was to select the files in question and reset their permissions to read and write. This seemed to solve the problem.

I bring this up because so very often problems that get flagged by alerts as memory related are not that at all.

You should not be wasting any time with this problem without contacting Graphisoft Tech Support directly. This is what you pay money for. Get Greg Methy and co. on the problem immediately. 1 (800) 238-3992

I suspect they will want to get their hands on this gigundus file of yours.

Re: Not enough memory to perform operation ... ArchiCAD

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Jun 2011 19:12:35 GMT

Thanx Aaron... I'll try calling 🙂