topic Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4 in Installation & update

AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Anonymous — Mon, 29 Apr 2024 08:56:22 GMT

Hide button in Finder does not work properly.
First attempts without succes. Finally ArchiCAD disappears (yes!) but can't be activated again :

- ArchiCAD file is still in dock / no access
- stop button doesn't work
- no force quit available

Any ideas?

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Stress Co_ — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:23:42 GMT

Joeri wrote:
no force quit available

Command (apple key)+Option+ESC

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:50:34 GMT

Stress wrote:
Joeri wrote:
no force quit available
Command (apple key)+Option+ESC

This was my first guess also but the AC12 instance was not listed.
All other applications including AC11 were.

Finally succeeded holding the Option button + Stop in dock menu = Force Quit.

Thanks anyway. J

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

SeaGeoff — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:39:03 GMT

I too have found that Hide ArchiCAD no longer works, either from the Dock fly-out, ArchiCAD menu, or Cmd-H. This is ArchiCAD 11 not 12. Since I know it was working recently it may have been an OS upgrade. I’m at 10.5.5 now. Interestingly Hide Others when in the Finder hides everything but ArchiCAD. So it may have started with an OS upgrade but it only affects ArchiCAD. Anybody else seeing this?

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Dwight — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:29:13 GMT

Why would anyone want to hide Archicad?

I had that problem at one time.

Yet another way to know that it is time to upgrade, say, before the disaster of attempting to hide Archicad making your display explode [that motivated me.]

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Rod Jurich — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:33:24 GMT

Geoff wrote:
/........ Anybody else seeing this?

Greetings Geoff, it is quite strange that when a second AC session is open
Cmd+H works on the second but not the first to open.
Yet on occasion after re-launching Finder AC will sometimes hide.
At least in 12 you can hide all background windows and minimise the 2D window to clear the desktop temporarily.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 29 Nov 2008 23:38:11 GMT

I find it works sometimes, but not always. Have not seen a pattern. I have not had a problem restoring AC after having hidden it, but at some point, cmd-H stops doing anything. Works again after relaunch.

Aha. Found it. In my WE, the shortcut cmd-H is assigned to 'Find Selection' from pre-historic times, which is only an available command while editing a GDL object. After opening and then closing the GDL editor, cmd-H will no longer hide ArchiCAD.

Loading the standard AC 12 WE has no problem with hiding - cmd-H is not assigned to anything else in the WE. Removing the text (GDL) editor shortcut to cmd-H makes my own work environment work correctly.

HTH,
Karl

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

SeaGeoff — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:21:01 GMT

Restart solved it. I knew it wasn’t a WE issue since I’d experienced and fixed that in the past, and know it was working just recently.

Even with everything working correctly I notice that ArchiCAD and the Finder have some relationship issues. If I hide ArchiCAD and then switch back to it all the windows and palettes reopen but the menus are still the Finder’s, or whatever app I was using. What’s more, those menus don’t work. Click = nothing. I must switch apps again to get the ArchiCAD menus back.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:45:23 GMT

To resume, we have found 3 (different?) relationship issues between AC and Finder (discussed in ohter threads also) :

1. Hide ArchiCAD in Finder : it works from time to time, no real pattern ;
2. AC reopens but Finder’s menus are in front ;
3. Somehow AC gets 'lost in space' and force quit is the only alternative (I don't use spaces). This one is most cumbersome to deal with because it affects file reliability. Again, no real pattern...

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:36:17 GMT

I'm not experiencing these Finder issues. Geoff, your signature says AC 11 - is that where you are seeing this? I did have more problems with 10 and 11 than with 12 under OS 10.5

Joeri, you are seeing these Finder issues with 12?

Thanks,
Karl

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

SeaGeoff — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:33:29 GMT

I’m only running ArchiCAD 11 at the moment. But Joeri’s description matches mine, so it’s not a PPC issue.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 18:41:58 GMT

Karl wrote:
Joeri, you are seeing these Finder issues with 12?

I'm on OS 10.5.5 (Intel).
Issue 1 and 2 with AC10 or AC11 : frequently, with AC12 : rarely, but it happens.
Issue 3 with AC10 : not seen yet, with AC11 : regular, with AC 12 : once a week...?

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Erich — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:17:58 GMT

I notice that all the folks that have this issue are on Mac OSX 10.5X (I think). As I have never experienced it myself, I am wondering if this is related to running Leopard.

Just a thought.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Anonymous — Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:29:42 GMT

Certainly Leopard!
The same applies to the ATI graphic display issues. No problem at all with OS 10.4.(9).
If you don't feel the need, please do not upgrade. I (have to / want to) stick with Leopard only because of the Time Machine implementation...

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Ralph Wessel — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 13:51:29 GMT

Erich wrote:
I notice that all the folks that have this issue are on Mac OSX 10.5X (I think). As I have never experienced it myself, I am wondering if this is related to running Leopard.

No, I've had this problem for several versions of both ArchiCAD and the Mac OS. The same problem crops in several other threads, including a related problem with Spaces. It only happens with ArchiCAD, so I assume this is something GS need to address.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

SeaGeoff — Mon, 01 Dec 2008 17:09:34 GMT

Ralph wrote:
It only happens with ArchiCAD, so I assume this is something GS need to address.

Agreed.

Re: AC12 : Error "Hide ArchiCAD" on OSX 10.5.4

Barbara Sommer — Mon, 15 Dec 2008 12:31:23 GMT

We have been able to reproduce this problem at Graphisoft Tech. Supp. several times using "Spaces" while working with ArchiCAD. But unfortunately we could not find any clear method/steps yet to replicate the problem constantly. This is a bug that needs to fixed as soon as possible and since many of you have had similar issues we would be glad if somebody found a way how to 100% and constantly get this bug alive.

We would like to reward the first user who can provide us with these steps with a Graphisoft T-Shirt.