topic Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow in Installation & update

ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Wed, 16 Dec 2009 08:23:51 GMT

Is anyone else getting super slow update and publishing from legacy jobs (v 10,11,12) in version 13???
We've had a single small residential plan take over 15mins to update drawings when in 12 it takes less than 3mins.
It's getting to a point here where I am about to get our users to abandon 13 completely! It really is that bad!!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Dec 2009 11:31:43 GMT

Hmmm... Very strange! I working in AC13 on much slower hardware and it very fast for me!
So, sheck your videocard for OpenGL 2.0 and DirectX 9 support, maybe problem is here.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Jan 2010 16:32:43 GMT

Yes, I'm having the same problem

Windows 7 64bits
Intel i7 920
&gb RAM
Nvidia fx 1800

Archicad and Artlantis really slow...
Windows 7 has directx above 9... Could it be for that? Doubt it...
Anyone having same problem?

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 06:08:18 GMT

How about extremely show schedules?

New standalone file.
Very simple
Room schedule taking 6-7+ minutes on a quad core PC - what is going on? Never ever this slow in previous releases.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:52:04 GMT

Guys you should all report these problems to your reseller, possible attach the file so they can be forwarded to GS HQ so they can find the source of the problem and correct it.
I think they would be interested in finding out.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Rick Thompson — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:30:46 GMT

What I have noticed is once you select all the drawings in the Drawing Manager and update them… which updates fine, then the whole everything bogs down. Closing and opening is the only fix. If I don't switching between "sheets", selecting anything… zooming.. (etc) brings up the spinning ball (Mac) for 5 - 10 - 15 sec. or more. I don't seem to get this if I don't update everything in DM, but that I need to do at times. So, yes, something is amiss. I have posted this slow down perviously (less now known specifics) but no one else seemed to be noticing any speed issues. I am glad you posted it and maybe this will help GS be aware it is not isolated.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 01:36:59 GMT

Hi Laslo

I actually started this post after logging a support item with GS Aus! I hadn't heard back and was starting to lose my patience (and mind) with 13!
GS HQ do now have a copy of one of our problematic files so I'm hoping for technical answers soon!

As soon as I hear from GS I'll share the answers!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 03:56:14 GMT

ditto
(Kristian)

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Brett Brown — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 05:41:29 GMT

Apart from the recommended "do not to migrate" which is hard not to do, I am assuming you are both using Cadimage Tools (one is). You could try unloading them (uncheck them in add-on manager) and see if that makes any difference. Would eliminate them as the source of the problem if it doesn't make a difference.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:43:19 GMT

Brett

No Cadimage tools in any of our stuff!!
We even get the issue with no libs loaded at all!!
I've been right thru every way I can think of to pin point the issue but
it's very random!!

As for migrating, we have well over 100 standard residential models in our groups range and not to mention the 1000's of contracts already drawn!
If migrating becomes an issue I doubt very much we will go thru another upgrade!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Rick Thompson — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:07:04 GMT

For what it is worth, I am in a similar situation. I have many, many plans started pre 6.5, and some 4.5. I have always been able to migrate with only minor headaches. I am not on a PC, so maybe that is a factor for your issue this go around. My issue seems to be related to updating all drawings… (linked and internal). After that, I get a general slow down. But, that's it, and again, many plans have been migrating for 15 years or so. Personally upgrading is must as I have benefited a lot from the added abilities over the years.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Mon, 08 Feb 2010 01:36:40 GMT

Rick

I'm not going to lie, it's kinda nice to hear that someone on mac is having the same issue! I've got a mac at home but wasn't able to recreate the issue there!
(That pushed my windows rage up a notch!)

It's really quite random as to which .pln's fail but it is happening to at least 40% of them here! The strangest part is all of these models were drawn from the same template and there is no definable differences between them.

Don't get me wrong, almost every release over the years has benefitted us too but for the first time since version 5 I'm actually angry at the issues that have cropped up!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 04:36:47 GMT

I was able to install missing(?) parts of Windows DirectX 9 components needed to run AC 13 better in Windows 7. Hope that helps you too.

tip came from:
http://www.sevenforums.com/gaming/61552-directx-feb-2010-update-released.html

Microsoft installation package:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=0cef8180-e94a-4f56-b157-5ab8109cb4f5

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 07:40:28 GMT

OK turns out our specific problem was caused by a mass of pen sets (200+)
13 apparently updates the pen sets pop up in the quick options and it is actually a bug.

I've found that one of our drafting teams had a general notes/details pln they were copying from and pasting to. This has lead to pen sets building up and being imported into the contract drawings. It seems after version 10 this pen sets copying stopped but it explains exactly why our legacy projects were such a nightmare!

Strip the pen sets back to the minimum you need in attribute manager and it decreases the update times dramatically!!!

I hope this helps anyone else out there having headaches

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Arcadia — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 03:43:12 GMT

Kristian wrote:
Hi Laslo

I actually started this post after logging a support item with GS Aus! I hadn't heard back and was starting to lose my patience (and mind) with 13!
GS HQ do now have a copy of one of our problematic files so I'm hoping for technical answers soon!

As soon as I hear from GS I'll share the answers!

Asking for help from tech support in Aus is a waste of time. I have never had a single response to an Arkiklub technical query I have posted.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 05:59:13 GMT

Wow! That is pretty bad!! I do get annoyed with the delays we get but if it takes too long I call the WA Bussiness Development Manager and make a little noise! It is a little dfferent for us though as we have quite a few licences!!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:15:18 GMT

Hey Kristian, Mark T here. I get quite the opposite. Older jobs once migrated to 13 just fly. I'm so used to the speed of 13 I tear my hair out opening any legacy jobs in 10. Considering on average our files are around 30-40MB in size, I prefer to bring them across when I can. If could be that 64bit ArchiCAD has the advantage here??!!!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Arcadia — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 08:27:27 GMT

I'm running 64bit and I find archicad slower than v12! The only advantage 64 bit has given me is the extra ram to run multiple archicad instances.

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 09:02:09 GMT

G'day Mark!

Yeah we're testing a machine on Win 7 64 and have found it quicker in general! All our new jobs created from our 13 template seem to be fairly issue free (except for some windows permissions nightmares)
As for XP 32 bit v13, we've got some decent drag compared to 12!
But windows lately has been driving me round the bend!!
That's a whole other story though!!

Re: ArchiCAD 13 slow

Anonymous — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:18:11 GMT

What was the outcome of all of this.....? 5 months on it would be interesting to understand what everyone has found.

Have you abandoned V13? Have you moved to V14?

Have you you been able to successfully migrate files without the slowness?

What operating systems are you now using?