topic Re: AC doors and windows disappearing in Installation & update

AC doors and windows disappearing

rm — Tue, 23 Mar 2004 19:28:57 GMT

Using AC 8.1 doors or windows has been very frustrating. When adjusting them, stretching, changing parameters in plan, I find them disappearing on screen even in plan after rebuilding or refreshing the screen. Yet they show up in 3D just fine.

My work-a-round ( which is a complete waste of time ) is that I have to close the file, then restart the file, and then the parts show up as expected again.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Is this a know bug?

Is there an updated AC 8.1 Library that I should be using?

BTW, I'm using AC 8.1 on OSX 10.3.3 on a G4 with 1.5 megs of RAM.

Thanks,
Robert Mariani

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Dave Jochum — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 00:11:49 GMT

rm wrote:
Using AC 8.1 doors or windows has been very frustrating. When adjusting them, stretching, changing parameters in plan, I find them disappearing on screen even in plan after rebuilding or refreshing the screen. Yet they show up in 3D just fine.

Is anyone else experiencing this?

Yes--though the window doesn't completely disappear in plan--just various elements, like sills, or when viewing actual line weights, parts will show incorrectly. It's most definitely a bug, and one I had not encountered before 8.1. In fact, I first noticed it just a few days ago.

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

rm — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:14:37 GMT

Thanks Dave for confirming this. If you are experiencing the same problem, I would encourage you to let Tech Support know about it. When I talked to them about it today, they indicated that had not seen this before.

I wonder if this is unique to the MAC side of the AC.

Regards,
Architects Design Forum, Ltd.

Robert Mariani

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Dave Jochum — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 01:54:57 GMT

rm wrote:
I wonder if this is unique to the MAC side of the AC.

Wouldn't be the first time...

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Djordje — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 05:30:03 GMT

rm wrote:
Thanks Dave for confirming this. If you are experiencing the same problem, I would encourage you to let Tech Support know about it. When I talked to them about it today, they indicated that had not seen this before.

Are you using SEOs on the walls where the doors and windows misbehave?

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Dave Jochum — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:32:10 GMT

Djordje wrote:
rm wrote:
Thanks Dave for confirming this. If you are experiencing the same problem, I would encourage you to let Tech Support know about it. When I talked to them about it today, they indicated that had not seen this before.
Are you using SEOs on the walls where the doors and windows misbehave?

Not in the most recent occurrence. I'll have to go back and check the previous one. Is that a relationship you've found to exist?

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Dave Jochum — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 07:33:35 GMT

Djordje wrote:
Are you using SEOs on the walls where the doors and windows misbehave?

I've checked, and no SEOs are involved.

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

rm — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:00:50 GMT

Are you using SEOs on the walls where the doors and windows misbehave?

SEO? I'm afraid I have not seen SEO before, what do you mean.

RM

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Dave Jochum — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:23:44 GMT

rm wrote:
SEO? I'm afraid I have not seen SEO before, what do you mean.

Solid Element Operations. Djordje was suggesting that the problem might be tied to its use, but not the case in my experience.

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

rm — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:33:11 GMT

Thank you Dave on the SEO explanation. In my case, I am NOT using SEO's either.......must be a bug unique to the MAC side.

Hopefully, GS will look into this.

RM

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:57:16 GMT

The SEO problem (the one I am aware of anyway) with doors (and perhaps windows) is in the coding of the library parts themselves and is not a bug in ArchiCAD. This would also affect anyone using the problem parts whether on Mac or PC. It is curious whether to call this a bug since the doors are just doing what they have been coded to do (become simpler when involved in an SEO). I am guessing that the author of the GDL just didn't expect the doors to inherit their SEO status from the wall they are in (perhaps this is a bug?). I am still not clear why doors should be coded to account for this anyway.

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

rm — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:32:15 GMT

Matthew wrote:
The SEO problem (the one I am aware of anyway) with doors (and perhaps windows) is in the coding of the library parts themselves and is not a bug in ArchiCAD.......

Mathew, not sure what problem you are talking about since it is not the same issue both Dave and I have written about.

I'm sure the problem you are writing about is very important, but perhaps could be listed in a seperate thread, only in an effort to perhaps receive clearer insight from others to both the problem you speak of, and the one I initiated in this thread.

I'm guessing you picked up on the first SEO comment thinking this is what the thread is about.

Regards,
Architects Design Forum, Ltd.

RM

Re: AC doors and windows disappearing

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:54:11 GMT

rm wrote:
I'm guessing you picked up on the first SEO comment thinking this is what the thread is about.RM

Sorry to be out of step here. You're right, I was responding to the SEO issue without going back to the start of the thread.