topic Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17 in Installation & update

Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 02:39:31 GMT

While I'm waiting for the AUS version to be released, I thought I'd have a play with 17 demo. Opened a 16 project into 17 and was curious what this means in the materials s dropdown with all those strange numbers?

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:24:12 GMT

You'll want to study the Migration Guide (and more):
http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-17-int-reference-guide/migration-guide-for-archicad-17/migrating-from-archicad-8-1-or-9/building-materials-attribute-migration-issues/

[Link above updated 7/15/13]

As it says there:

The names of the new Building Materials are generated from the original Cut Fill’s name and will be extended with a unique nine-digit identifier

The more inconsistent the usage of fills, priorities, pens, etc in the original file, the more numeric-suffixed cut fill named BM's will be generated.

In the long run, Building Materials will save us all tons of work, but migration will take time. As Rick Thompson says in another thread - and is mentioned in the migration article - it can pay to clean things up some in the original 16 file first. Then, the new delete/merge capability with attributes helps clean up things further.

See also:
http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-17-int-reference-guide/configuration/attributes/building-materials/

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 03:31:35 GMT

Thanks Karl...rule number 1..read the manual!
Just like a kid in a lolly shop, install demo..load up a project...see what happens 🙂

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Karl Ottenstein — Wed, 19 Jun 2013 16:22:08 GMT

🙂

[I should mention that of course the desired 'new' template for 17 would not have any of those goofy numbers, but would have clean building material names. The flood of suffixed-names, and the legacy intersection preference, lets an old project show up and behave exactly as before.]

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Jul 2013 20:38:23 GMT

Hello... I'm really lost with that and find it quite frustrating, I'd actually like(and thinks that is the way it should be) to take my project from AC16, open it up in AC17, and just carry on working on it. (minor adjustments maybe). But OK... does't work that way, that's fine, so I'll go and check the migration guide on the GS Help Center website and BAM! "The page you are trying to reach can't be found...Try refining your search, or use the navigation above to locate the post." Even though I come from a direct link inside the same site.
Very, very frustrating really!
Anybody have any clue when this "Help Center" will be up and running properly?

Cheers.

N.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 12 Jul 2013 21:15:26 GMT

Or you could read the Reference Guide PDF under Help starting on page 101.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 14 Jul 2013 23:43:42 GMT

Here is the migration guide page in the Help Center:

http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-17-int-reference-guide/migration-guide-for-archicad-17/

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Anonymous — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:49:25 GMT

@Eduardo thank you... I still think its imperative that the help centre runs properly.
@Laszlo than you too but unfortunately it's still not working: you link takes me to: "Migration Guide for ArchiCAD 17" where I can click on the version i want to migrate from, I click on the "Migrating from ArchiCAD 16" link and this takes me to a new page in which when I click on the first link "Building Materials: Attribute Migration Issues" (the one I'm really interested in right now), it takes me to a page that reads :"404 - Oops! The page you are trying to reach can't be found. Try refining your search, or use the navigation above to locate the post."
Thank you all for your responses.
n.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 00:55:10 GMT

Same 404 here.
I guess it is still in Beta.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 11:11:09 GMT

That is strange because I can access it with no problem. See attached image.

So it works for some, doesn't work for others.
I will let GS HQ know about this.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Eduardo Rolon — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 13:29:19 GMT

It is working now.

Re: Opening AC16 pln in AC17

Katalin Takacs — Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:07:19 GMT

Hi,

The first topic Karl shared is available on this url now: http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/guides/archicad-17-int-reference-guide/migration-guide-for-archicad-17/migrating-from-archicad-8-1-or-9/building-materials-attribute-migration-issues/

The Help Center is in Beta phase yet, so we are glad to receive your feedback and opinion. Please send enquiries to: helpcenter [at] graphisoft [dot] com