topic Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted in Installation & update

Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted file

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:36:59 GMT

Hi there,
this has been driving me crazy for quite a while, and I want to believe that there is some easy solution and I am just making a simple mistake.
We are using a few very simple custom drawing titles for all our drawings on the sheet.
I usually am able to drag the title anywhere on the sheet I want it to be. I active the drawing and click and hold down on the anchor point, a little submenue pop ups and voila (I attach an image).
Now, on some files, I have the issue that nothing happens when I click on the anchor point, and the drawing title staus in its position without being able to be moved.
Funny as is, if I copy clip this drawing into a new file, it works again.
Copying everything to a new file is not really an option, since I have way too many layouts defined already.
Any smart ideas? I even take the not so smart once.

Thanks

Bjorn

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:03:27 GMT

Have you tried doing a New and Reset?
ctrl+N +alt
cmd+N+opt

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:19:40 GMT

Erika wrote:
Have you tried doing a New and Reset?
ctrl+N +alt
cmd+N+opt

Didn't do the trick....and now I have to customize my screen again (should have saved the work environmnet first I guess)

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:24:02 GMT

Do you have any duplicates loaded? specifically the title?

Do you have the title saved as a favorite that you can reapply?

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 02:33:30 GMT

Erika wrote:
Do you have the title saved as a favorite

Call me crazy, but I am actually not using favorites. I know most people swear to it...but it didn't really do the trick for me.

Only dupliate loaded is a custom door handle (which I seem to have some problems getting rid off, bbut that's a different topic).

As I am saying, the weird thing, same title works on some sheets, but not on others. If I copy clip to another sheet that has a working drawing title it works. If I simply create a new sheet and copy clip, it doesn't.

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:19:02 GMT

In a file that the title works, create a favorite. Export the favorite and then import it into the file you are working on. Similar to exporting and importing a work environment. (or don't you do those either 🙂)

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 03:56:41 GMT

I doubt this is your problem but sometimes I get this weird bug that makes it so my pet pallet won't appear. Don't know the fix for it but a workaround is to select something else, like an element or something to get the pallet to appear for that object and then I go back and the pallet usually works.

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

David Maudlin — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:22:56 GMT

Bjorn:

What is the name of the Title you are using? I don't see a Title that has the drawing number on the right.

David

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:25:29 GMT

It's a custom title that they are using.
Perhaps it has some legacy issues?
Do you want to post the title for people to look at?

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 15:54:05 GMT

First of all, let me say thank you for all the replies so far. Unfortunately I am not any further on this, but here is some more details/replies to the suggestions.

Erika wrote:
[...]Export the favorite and then import it into the file you are working on.[..]

No good either. Nothing changed, and again, it already works in some instances in the file and in some it doesn't.

zeropointreference wrote:
[...]Don't know the fix for it but a workaround is to select something else, like an element or something to get the pallet to appear for that object and then I go back and the pallet usually works.

Unfortunately, this won't do me any good either.

David wrote:
What is the name of the Title you are using? I don't see a Title that has the drawing number on the right.

Erika already answered this one for me:

Erika wrote:
It's a custom title that they are using[...]Do you want to post the title for people to look at?

I attached the title as a zip file with the original title. Come to think about it...Erika, this might have actually been created by you back in the days (might have been Karim as well though).

Thanks

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:31:14 GMT

BjornATA wrote:

I attached the title as a zip file with the original title. Come to think about it...Erika, this might have actually been created by you back in the days (might have been Karim as well though).

Thanks

Moi? No, but thanks

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

David Maudlin — Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:16:24 GMT

Bjorn:

First some information about the title object: is is from AC 11 (GDL version 23) and was drawn in the 2D Symbol Window, not scripted, so there is not much to see or change in the object itself.

I could not reproduce your bug, but sometimes the cursor would not respond to the corner hotspots (the center was always ok). You could try saving the title object as an AC 15 part (open it and Save As... in 15, giving it a new name to keep the old object as is) to see if that helps. When the corner hotspots stopped being recognized by the cursor I change from this Title to another, and then back, which fixed that issue, so you could also try that when the bug appears. I have the Title Type panel as part of my Info Box, so it is easy to change the assigned Title.

David

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Sun, 24 Jun 2012 22:00:15 GMT

Have you tried selecting a different button on the Pet Palette then selecting the Move Sub-element button again? I have had a few instances when this has worked for me if things don't behave properly the first time.

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 17:16:20 GMT

@David:

Yes, I was aware it is an older version 2d window title. I am not much of a scripter and the people who set us up must nit be either
Switching in between titles did not help. I resaved the title block as AC 15 - still the same issue. Funny part, I can never grab the corner hot spot. Only the center. The fact that it works on some layout sheets but not on others in the same file, makes me think it is really not the title but somethign else causing this.

@s2art: Not quite following you. My problem is that the Pet Palette won't even come up, since the hotspots are not active.

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Mon, 25 Jun 2012 19:50:42 GMT

Ok, one more for you guys. I gave up on our cutsom Drawing Title Block and am trying to tweak the NCS_15 on. Turns out it actually works quite well with little effort, but I am running into one little problem. I can't seem to change the text font type from the default one. Basically all options for font type and text size don't seem to have any impact on the title. Any idea?

I found this in the script:

else
sStyle = gs_drawing_name_font_style: gosub 1500: drawingNameFontStyle = iStyle
sStyle = gs_backref_font_style: gosub 1500: backrefFontStyle = iStyle
sStyle = gs_drawing_scale_font_style: gosub 1500: drawingScaleFontStyle = iStyle
sStyle = gs_drawing_number_font_style: gosub 1500: drawingNumberFontStyle = iStyle
sStyle = gs_draw_descr_font_style: gosub 1500: drawingDescrFontStyle = iStyle

so you would think there should be some way of entering it in the dialog box.

Never mind, found it 😉

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Erika Epstein — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:27:50 GMT

Near the top of the Title tab, do you have "Uniform Text Format" checked?

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 00:40:41 GMT

BjornATA wrote:
Never mind, found it 😉

Erika,

thank you for the follow up, but I found it. Was buried in the sub folder structure of the setting , since you can adjust every item separately.
Now I am digging into the script trying to find the location of the Circle. There must be a way to get ti onto the right side. The flip works ok, but than you have to adjust the text and move it manually to the left, since it sticks to the circle.

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

David Maudlin — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 11:45:01 GMT

BjornATA wrote:
Now I am digging into the script trying to find the location of the Circle.

It is at Line 429 of the 2D Script:
CIRCLE2 radiusBubble, o, radiusBubble

David

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

Anonymous — Tue, 26 Jun 2012 15:14:07 GMT

Thanks David,
I guess I really have to dig deeper into gdl scripting to do what I wanted to do. I was hoping I could find a way of setting the hotspot of the circle to the end of the line (which is parametric though).
Well, will be a project for next weekend if at all. Current project unfortunately won't allow to take the time to investigate this right now any further. Thanks for all your help.
(now watch me doing all the work and once 16 arrives there is an option for this built in )

Re: Can't seem to move my Drawing Title anymore - corrupted

David Maudlin — Wed, 27 Jun 2012 13:06:13 GMT

BjornATA wrote:
I guess I really have to dig deeper into gdl scripting to do what I wanted to do. ... Well, will be a project for next weekend if at all.

This is a good exercise for improving your GDL skills: small scope, and this object only has one CALL statement (I think that is just for the graphic scale) so all the code is there to explore and manipulate.

Have fun!

David