topic Re: CURVED FLAG SET ??? in Installation & update

CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 09:25:38 GMT

Happy new year Archicad users - we have built a model in 13 - but eact time try to view the it in 3d we get an error - Curved flag set for body with out any curved Pgon.

We have no flags on our building / model so am slightly confused as to where it has come from or what it means.

Any thoughts ??

Thanks Myles.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:34:27 GMT

This Flag thing is a programmer lingo. If means that a certain condition is true.
The message probably means that you have a polygon shaped element, such as a Slab and the data structure says that one of its edges is curved, but there in no curved segment in the geometry.
Somehow the data structure got damaged I guess.
Does it give you an ID or something of the affected element in the error message?
Normally you just need to find and delete, then redo the affected element and all is well.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:49:44 GMT

The error is probably caused by something you have imported like a sketchup object or 3D dwg. Or maybe an object you have created automatically by Save 3D model as...

Try and hide these elements and check if in 3D if the problem remains.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:50:18 GMT

The error usually doesn't identify the bad bit.

In that case the easiest way to find it is a "binary search". Model half (say the East side) of the building. If the error occurs model half of that again. Otherwise model half of the part (the West side) of the building. Keep splitting by halves until you get to the problem.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

JaredBanks — Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:33:32 GMT

Binary Searches are the way to go. Easy, fast, and no need to over think!

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:10:34 GMT

Hi all, thanks for your help - going to give it a go - hope your all snowed in !

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Apr 2013 23:39:48 GMT

how do you do the binary search?

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

JaredBanks — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 00:43:04 GMT

Jim,

this post talks about doing it for attributes:

http://www.shoegnome.com/2011/03/06/high-low-you-backed-up-right/

Basically if you marquee off half the model when you go to 3d only that part is generated. Thus if the error doesn't occur it means the error is in an element not in 3D. So you can marquee the other area and verify. Then you look at half that area, and repeat until you narrow down the area with the error to a small enough zone that you can find the problem.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:12:57 GMT

I have been making 3d objects from the 3D window. Once I insert the object and view it in the 3D window, I find the errors.

I have been reducing model chucks in the Z axis by using 3d cutting planes. I narrowed it to a portion of a story. The heavy marquee in plan can be added.

When the term binary search came up, I thought there was a special search function in the GSM script. Not so?

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

JaredBanks — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 02:15:11 GMT

not that I know of. Just craftiness...

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 18:21:13 GMT

Binary search is just a common practice for isolating individuals from large collections. It is the basis for the game of Twenty Questions.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Fri, 05 Apr 2013 19:57:21 GMT

It is funny somehow that things we have always been doing, like narrowing down the source, is the right thing to be doing.

BTW: We are in the process of making "objects" of whole buildings that we designed in the past 8 years, all in the same development. We started in AC8, most of it is in AC12 and finally after some machine upgrades we will able to use our AC16. I have tested a couple of the whole building objects in 16 that we are making through 12, and I am surprised to find that they work well so far. And that is without loading custom objects from past projects.

Re: CURVED FLAG SET ???

Anonymous — Sat, 06 Apr 2013 13:57:48 GMT

jim wrote:
It is funny somehow that things we have always been doing, like narrowing down the source, is the right thing to be doing.

BTW: We are in the process of making "objects" of whole buildings that we designed in the past 8 years, all in the same development. We started in AC8, most of it is in AC12 and finally after some machine upgrades we will able to use our AC16. I have tested a couple of the whole building objects in 16 that we are making through 12, and I am surprised to find that they work well so far. And that is without loading custom objects from past projects.

I assume that you are saving these as binary GDL rather than editable scripts. In the latter case there might be some issues and you would need the libraries loaded for called parts. In the former you have the complete non-parametric model incorporated into the part itself which should have no compatibility issues (going forward anyway) and won't require any added libraries.