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ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:05:23 GMT

Hello everybody.

I managed to install my ArchiCAD 10 in the "XPM" environment on my Win7 Pro 64bit PC. The trouble is, that when I start ArchiCAD, I get the message that

"It's not possible to run ArchiCAD in a terminal service client"

As from our official swiss reseller's technical support, I have been told that it IS possible to install it in XPM, even though it is NOT supported officially by Graphisoft.
At the same time, I read on this site

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Windows%207#ArchiCAD_10_on_Windows_7

that it is working seamlessly.

Where did I fail?
Thanks in advance!
F.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:26:55 GMT

XP mode of Windows 7 is basically a Virtual machine running XP operating system under the Windows 7 machine. Because it is a virtual machine, the peripherals of your computer (like the USB ports) are either assigned to Win7 or XP. My guess is that the USB port where your key is is assigned to Win7, and that is why ArchiCAD thinks you are running it as a terminal client.

The good news is: you don't need to deal with all this. Forget about the XP mode. Install ArchiCAD on Win 7 as a native application.

Greg

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 07:20:42 GMT

Hi Greg...

gkmethy wrote:
XP mode of Windows 7 is basically a Virtual machine running XP operating system under the Windows 7 machine. Because it is a virtual machine, the peripherals of your computer (like the USB ports) are either assigned to Win7 or XP. My guess is that the USB port where your key is is assigned to Win7, and that is why ArchiCAD thinks you are running it as a terminal client.

I noticed that there's the possibilitiy to switch or activate the USB devices when I run the VM, but nothing happened other than having XP detecting the key and installing the drivers.
As I'm quite new to ArchiCAD, I don't know how the WIBU-Key has to be correctly set up and managed: what software would I have to install? I simply installed the ones that sounded me the best ones (WibuKey Runtime-Kit)...

The good news is: you don't need to deal with all this. Forget about the XP mode. Install ArchiCAD on Win 7 as a native application.

Greg

So you are telling me I can install ArchiCAD 10 on Win7 and run it without any troubles? Could you please tell me step-by-step how to do this?

Thanks so far,
F.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Laszlo Nagy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:44:21 GMT

Here is a link to AC10 on Win7. Should install fine.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Windows%207#ArchiCAD_10_on_Windows_7

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 14:38:05 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Here is a link to AC10 on Win7. Should install fine.

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Windows%207#ArchiCAD_10_on_Windows_7

Hello and thanks for your suggestion.
The above link is *exactly* the one I found, and on behalf of which I decided to install "Windows XP Mode" and in that environment my ArchiCAD 10.

The statement "ArchiCAD 10 installs fine on Windows 7" is quite correct, but nothing is being testified about *using* and *running* ArchiCAD 10!!!

Please, has anybody direct personal experience with this issue? I'd like to know the steps to be taken in order to get it running.

Many thanks and kind regards,
F.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Greg Kmethy — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:29:23 GMT

Flavio,

We did not thoroughly test AC 10 on Win 7, but we do use it occasionally, and it seems to run fine. I would stay away from Win7's XP mode, as that will probably severely affect the performance of ArchiCAD. I would not recommend running any CAD software in a virtual environment. It is doable, but probably you get much slower speeds than running it in Win7 native mode. "XP mode" is really a "Plan B" for applications that refuse to run under Win7 natively.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:55:52 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
Flavio,

We did not thoroughly test AC 10 on Win 7, but we do use it occasionally, and it seems to run fine. I would stay away from Win7's XP mode, as that will probably severely affect the performance of ArchiCAD. I would not recommend running any CAD software in a virtual environment. It is doable, but probably you get much slower speeds than running it in Win7 native mode. "XP mode" is really a "Plan B" for applications that refuse to run under Win7 natively.

Hy Greg,
thanks for taking time to explain more in depth the situation.

Could you now, please, give me a step-by-step instruction for how to install AutoCAD 10 on Win7 physical PC?

That would be great!
Thanks,
F.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 25 Feb 2010 11:04:01 GMT

I solved by running the installer EXE in "Vista SP2" compatibility mode. Now running ArchiCAD 10 is OK!

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Sun, 13 Jun 2010 05:41:35 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
Install ArchiCAD on Win 7 as a native application.

It was a huge disappointment after purchasing a new laptop that, unfortunately, AC10 does not install... The last message I get from the installation process is the one about removing the key. Then nothing happens, except that Win7 return automatically to the predefined color scheme.
My config: i3 / Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Laszlo Nagy — Fri, 18 Jun 2010 09:29:24 GMT

jimpap wrote:
It was a huge disappointment after purchasing a new laptop that, unfortunately, AC10 does not install... The last message I get from the installation process is the one about removing the key. Then nothing happens, except that Win7 return automatically to the predefined color scheme.
My config: i3 / Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you

How do you expect a software that was released 4 years ago to run perfectly on an operating system released 3 years later? Win7 did not exist when AC10 came out so how could the software be written in a way to run perfectly.

You can try one thing:
uninstall Java in Win7, install the Java that comes with the AC10 installation CD. That solved problems before.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:45:01 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
How do you expect a software that was released 4 years ago to run perfectly on an operating system released 3 years later? Win7 did not exist when AC10 came out so how could the software be written in a way to run perfectly.

You can try one thing:
uninstall Java in Win7, install the Java that comes with the AC10 installation CD. That solved problems before.

Before giving this impolite answer my dear Laszlo, you should question "how do you expect" me to raise the money every 3 years to upgrade my AC version! Of course I am not "expecting the software to run perfectly", that would be illogical. I 'm just asking if anybody has any idea IF and how could this issue can be solved.
Anyway, thank you for the tip, but it didn't work out. Any other ideas?

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 19 Jun 2010 08:21:08 GMT

Well,you started your post with this:
"It was a huge disappointment that AC10 does not install on Win7."
But I did not mean to be impolite.

As stated earlier in the thread, in Win 7 Professional, FlavioB could run the installer EXE file in Vista SP2 mode. I don't know if it also works in your Home Premium edition, though. Maybe you need Win7 Pro for that.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:08:36 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
But I did not mean to be impolite.

Yea, it was a miss understanding I am sure, thanks again

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 13:52:27 GMT

Ha! I don't know how it came in my mind after all this time to try once again to install my AC10 and...... tadaaaaa!!!!
With no effort, no changes, no customization, anything! Maybe it was a horoscope thing, lol.
AC10 is now installed to my Win7 PC and running smoothly (in regular mode not XP). The only thing needed was an update of the WiBuKey drivers.
Cheers

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:26:12 GMT

jimpap wrote:
Ha! I don't know how it came in my mind after all this time to try once again to install my AC10 and...... tadaaaaa!!!!
With no effort, no changes, no customization, anything! Maybe it was a horoscope thing, lol.
AC10 is now installed to my Win7 PC and running smoothly (in regular mode not XP). The only thing needed was an update of the WiBuKey drivers.
Cheers

Happy you!

Could you please describe "step-by-step" what you did and whether your W7 is 32 or 64 bit?

Thanks.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 15:59:10 GMT

FlavioB, my OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit.

Unfortunately I don't have much to say about the successful installation. The last time I tried to install AC10 was before the 20th of June following laszlonagy's tip about uninstalling Java, but with no success. Today, I contacted my local Graphisoft office to see what could I do, an upgrade or something. I wanted to describe to them at what point the installer crashed, so I tried to install it again. I inserted the CD and just pressed OK to everything. The thing kept going and the installation was completely successful. As simple as that! I did NOTHING else in particular!

My guess is either an Windows update added something useful to my system (so fully update yours) or last Java I got is more compatible (at the time of installation I had installed Java 6 update 20 which I DID NOT uninstall it before AC setup) or some other's program installation added something into my system that helped. Revising my control panel the last month I have installed an ACAD 2010 trial, and Google Sketchup 7 (the free one). So if Java 6/20 won't fix the problem, try installing them too.

I wish you the best of luck, keep us posted with the result !-)

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 09:46:53 GMT

jimpap wrote:
FlavioB, my OS is Windows 7 Home Premium, 64bit.

Unfortunately I don't have much to say about the successful installation. The last time I tried to install AC10 was before the 20th of June following laszlonagy's tip about uninstalling Java, but with no success. Today, I contacted my local Graphisoft office to see what could I do, an upgrade or something. I wanted to describe to them at what point the installer crashed, so I tried to install it again. I inserted the CD and just pressed OK to everything. The thing kept going and the installation was completely successful. As simple as that! I did NOTHING else in particular!

So you did *not* run the installer in some compatibility mode (Vista, XP) neither ran it "As Administrator..."

I'll keep you posted...

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:03:39 GMT

I verify that it was in "normal" mode (my version of Win7 does not have XP mode) but my user account I log in has Administrator (else I think you don't have the rights to install any software)

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 12:45:58 GMT

jimpap wrote:
I verify that it was in "normal" mode (my version of Win7 does not have XP mode) but my user account I log in has Administrator (else I think you don't have the rights to install any software)

Thank you for your immediate feedback.

Now as I left it installed in "Vista SP2 Mode", my only trouble is the one I described in other post, about not being able to view 3D. I see my 3D model only when using mouse to move around, as soon as I release mouse button, it stops being displayed.

Any help?

Re: ArchiCAD 10 in Windows XP Mode (Windows 7 Pro)

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 13:20:27 GMT

yes, I have the same problem with 3D view, but it doesn't concern me much as I never work in 3D, I only check some things using that view.