topic Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet in Installation & update

Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:42:05 GMT

Hi There,
Is anyone out there using a wireless pen mouse to operate ArchiCAD without the use of a tablet?

I am going to get one soon for other programs to input hand writing and it may prove beneficial to AC as well, if not I may get a tablet as well?

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 07:40:37 GMT

GS didn't have in mind that architect will have pens and tablets so AC is not tablet ready program.

I tryed it and i can tell you it sux compering to other programs, especially MOI3d. There you can do anything with pen cos developer was thinking about that.

GS team dont have vision and they never spent their time developing little thing that matters.

If you r getting pen only for archicad then i suggest you, dont buy it !

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 09:49:22 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
If you r getting pen only for archicad then i suggest you, dont buy it !

I beg to differ. Have been using a Wacom pen for more than 10 years, exactly for ArchiCAD. Best thing productivity wise, right next to a 30" screen.

As for that tabletless pen, it looks a bit too clumsy. Can´t see any clear advantage over Wacom, which btw does not require any charge up or batteries.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 10:49:53 GMT

Usually I use a cintiq and it's very productive. For some jobs the mouse is better and for others the cintiq is better... In both case the wacom is more confortable.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:49:35 GMT

Miguel,
What size tablet are you using, I have seen that wacom have many sizes in the Intuos 4 range. Some say they run out of tablet room too?

Jose,
What is the difference between cintiq and the intuos, from what I read the
cintiq is a more art orientated tablet pen so I guess it depends what job you are using it for?

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 01:58:01 GMT

NeckoFromSarajevo wrote:
GS didn't have in mind that architect will have pens and tablets so AC is not tablet ready program.

I tryed it and i can tell you it sux compering to other programs, especially MOI3d. There you can do anything with pen cos developer was thinking about that.

GS team dont have vision and they never spent their time developing little thing that matters.

If you r getting pen only for archicad then i suggest you, dont buy it !

The GS team do look at productivity improvements but they must have a long list and their priorities differ from our own too.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:56:59 GMT

mthd wrote:
Miguel,
What size tablet are you using, I have seen that wacom have many sizes in the Intuos 4 range. Some say they run out of tablet room too?

The smallest. I see no advantage of making large arm movements in working with AC, because it is not a hand drafting or painting tool. It works fine even with a 30" screen, with a 17" sidekick.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 00:50:18 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
mthd wrote:
Miguel,
What size tablet are you using, I have seen that wacom have many sizes in the Intuos 4 range. Some say they run out of tablet room too?
The smallest. I see no advantage of making large arm movements in working with AC, because it is not a hand drafting or painting tool. It works fine even with a 30" screen, with a 17" sidekick.

Thanks Miguel, that helps to know that you dont have to buy the biggest tablet even with a big screen, I use a 24" HP for my work.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Rod Jurich — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:04:26 GMT

Manuel, I agree with Miguel.
If you do not need additional function keys then the smallest will do.
I use the next size up as it has 8 function keys.
Just remember to set your mapping to mouse.
I haven't used a rodent in years

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:50:31 GMT

Thanks Rod,
I was considering the medium size tablet. I am also looking at the Cintiq 1200w since it has the interactive pen display (screen) and is supposed to be more precise with natural hand eye coordination. I wonder if Jose can verify that having a screen display like the Cintiq has, is better than using just the wacom with no display on the tablet?

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 00:10:50 GMT

I am using my Pen Mouse with no tablet at the moment and I like it allot. It took a few days to get used to it and with the right mouse settings it is working very well. I sill need to try it out with ArchiCAD a bit more till I am fully satisfied that I don't need a tablet at all.

The expense of buying a pen display tablet is not much different to buying a PC tablet for on site measurements and taking that back into the office and using it for a digital pen input device, especially as most models have wacom digital pen software on board.

So having the wacom intuous pen input with no pen display would be very well worth it, esp if you get good accuracy and good results here as Rod and Miguel are getting with theirs. As they are both experienced users I might give it a go as well or at least test it out with ArchiCAD.

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 10:52:59 GMT

I should point out that the use of the pen is not for everyone. I have seen a success rate of about 25%. One thing you have to do is to commit yourself to it in the first couple of weeks.
After that, you find out that the pen is mightier than the rat

Rod Jurich

Rod Jurich — Mon, 02 Jan 2012 12:01:19 GMT

Krippahl wrote:
/.............
After that, you find out that the pen is mightier than the rat

......... +1x10

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Tue, 30 Jul 2013 04:04:58 GMT

I am curious if any one has tried AC with the new and newer "Touch" Cintiqs?

Also I second the previous poster's question, the request of Jose to offer his opinion of the Cintiq versus the Intros Tablet.

thanks Peter
AC17
Since V4.5

Re: Pen Mouse with no Tablet

Anonymous — Sun, 03 Aug 2014 18:52:57 GMT

I just bought a cintiq copanion. Everything is perfect. The only problem I have is that I can't work right with multiple elements. I asigned tab on the left key of the rocker ring and because of the slight movement of the cursor the it selects always the first object. Does anybody knows how I can tune this?
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AC10-18 cintiq companion 512gb