topic Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity in Installation & update

3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 08:30:25 GMT

Was just struggling to describe this in the subject title, but the image I hope explains the problem. When navigating in 3D - if I get too near 'things' they get cut. Makes editing certain things impossible.

Is this a graphics driver issue or graphics card setting or bug? Advice greatly appreciated.

p.s. the white squares are me photo shopping out commercially sensitive stuff.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Erwin Edel — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:01:22 GMT

Unless you are modelling far far away from origin (which can cause clipping bugs), it is just as you say element too close to camera.

For tricky editing I generally select the items to edit and only show those in 3D.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:06:52 GMT

Thanks for your reply Erwin. With respect, I'm not sure that is it - I've just noticed that if I marquee something I can get as close as I want without the odd cutting behavior (which to be honest is how ArchiCAD has always performed for me until now). See image.
Normal operation to me should be; I am able to pan/zoom right up to an object/wall/whatever until basically I'm inside the thing. For now I have found a work around at least (using Marquee). When I get some time I will have to try some different graphics drivers to see if that cures it, and see if the same behaviour is replicated on other machines.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Erwin Edel — Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:24:17 GMT

Could be, yes. I haven't noticed any issues with the Quadro drivers, but I am very used to selecting element in the 3D window and then going for Show Selection in 3D option, so it might not be obvious in my workflow.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Sep 2017 19:31:26 GMT

I'm having the same issues, it seems like it is not a driver or computer issue. I have opened other archicad sessions and its not doing this. I also had a co worker open the file and he is having the same issue.

Did you figure out what the issue was? I'm thinking its a setting.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Paul King — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 06:16:37 GMT

Dan wrote:
Was just struggling to describe this in the subject title, but the image I hope explains the problem. When navigating in 3D - if I get too near 'things' they get cut. Makes editing certain things impossible.

Is this a graphics driver issue or graphics card setting or bug? Advice greatly appreciated.

p.s. the white squares are me photo shopping out commercially sensitive stuff.

I have had this issue in the past, especially associated with Quadro GPUs (for some reason high end game cards seem much more stable for ArchiCAD)

Issue seems to relate to the way you navigate around a perspective view - if you get closer to something by zooming (eg. with mouse wheel) in rather than by flying the camera with keyboard, this can occur. Also implicated seems to be OpenGL memory churning in the GPU if you have had a busy day.
Workaround seems to be to power off then on again. Again, mainstream GPUs seem to be a lot more reliable than the more expensive 'workstation' GPUs - probably because the same cash outlay will buy you a newer generation card with better specs, more memory, and more regular driver updates

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

mikas — Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:21:45 GMT

I had some strange openGL 3D-behavior too a couple of weeks ago (pic attached). If I recall it correctly, it was only one saved view in my project which gave me this, if I zoomed in enough. Now I can't reproduce it again.
It happened with an oldish iMac i7, Radeon 5750 1GB.

It was supposed to be a normal outside view of a hotel building.

Something like this has happened a few times earlier, I think in quite a many ArchiCAD versions.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:47:46 GMT

whether i navigate using my mouse, scroll button or in camera keyboard it does the same thing. My laptop has Intel Core i7 @ 2.5 GHz with 24GB of RAM, video card is NVIDIA GTX 980M . I'm not up on whether these specs are outdated, i know there are better video cards now but i thought this would be more then enough to cover what archicad requires. Whats weird about this issue is it doesn't happen in all my opened archicad projects. I have several sessions running and this issue doesn't happen in all sessions which leads me to think its a setting but i really don't know. It extremely annoying haha

Paul wrote:
Dan wrote:
Was just struggling to describe this in the subject title, but the image I hope explains the problem. When navigating in 3D - if I get too near 'things' they get cut. Makes editing certain things impossible.

Is this a graphics driver issue or graphics card setting or bug? Advice greatly appreciated.

p.s. the white squares are me photo shopping out commercially sensitive stuff.
I have had this issue in the past, especially associated with Quadro GPUs (for some reason high end game cards seem much more stable for ArchiCAD)

Issue seems to relate to the way you navigate around a perspective view - if you get closer to something by zooming (eg. with mouse wheel) in rather than by flying the camera with keyboard, this can occur. Also implicated seems to be OpenGL memory churning in the GPU if you have had a busy day.
Workaround seems to be to power off then on again. Again, mainstream GPUs seem to be a lot more reliable than the more expensive 'workstation' GPUs - probably because the same cash outlay will buy you a newer generation card with better specs, more memory, and more regular driver updates

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:30:56 GMT

So I seemed to narrow this probably down to a roof slab being the cause. For some reason there were some roof slabs that had 0 value. Once i deleted it i no longer had this close proximity cuts happen. Try deleting your roof slabs completely to see if this works on your side, it worked for me.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:25:14 GMT

I also have this clipping issue, and it's not he GPU, Open GL nor drivers.
For me it was the new railing tool from Archicad 21. Whener I use it extensively, I run into various problems like near camera clipping or random displacement of the railing. If I filter the railing out in 3D window, the near camera clipping issue dissappears.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:38:05 GMT

Just came across this too in a colleagues file. Navigation was clipping the model in interesting ways when orbiting. VIewing elements in 3D within a marquee did not have the problem. Turned out to be a mesh that was 800km away! Brought it closer to the building and all is good.

Check for distant objects or corrupt 3D elements.

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

Anonymous — Thu, 02 Jul 2020 14:38:54 GMT

I had a similar case as described by @s2art - I accidentaly aligned one of the walls to some random almost parallel line, resulting in having a 20km long wall - adjusted it and everything came back to normal, but it took some time to figure out it was the cause.

Look out for super long or hyper distant elements and everything's gonna be cool

Re: 3D window, elements cut when in close proximity

PLVT — Tue, 04 Apr 2023 05:16:25 GMT

Turning off a layer with distant objects fixed it for me and I had tried all other view settings