topic Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC. in Installation & update

How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:50:03 GMT

I've been trying to solve this problem for months now. It might sound like I'm a little clumsy, but I feel pretty strongly that my workflow is good practice:

I press 'ESC' multiple times to clear all tools and selections to prevent mistakenly moving or editing any unknown selections. Pressing ESC once clears selections, pressing it twice de-selects any active tool, but then if I press it three times (or less if nothing is selected, and no tool is selected), it causes my "full-screen mode" to minimize— it is driving me absolutely insane. Sometimes I just like to press Esc to be absolutely sure that nothing is selected outside of the current view.

I've changed the minimize/maximize to full-screen command to 'ctrl + esc.', which at least lets me re-maximize after the window annoyingly minimizes.

I've changed my OS keyboard/shortcuts/app shortcut: 'Exit Full Screen' key combination to 'opt + shift + esc' and that has not stopped AC from minimizing from full screen with just the ESC button pressed. I really really want to stop my Full screen mode from minimizing when I only press ESC.

I've also reinstalled AC and then re-set these key-combos. That has not helped.

Please please help!!!

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Christophe Fortineau — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 16:58:21 GMT

Hello,

We have the same configuration and I use Esc button like you do but I never have this kind of problem so I think it's a macOS configuration.
I invite you to check your MacOS parameters. Perhaps there is a shortcut about showing the Desktop (with ESC).
System Properties/Keyboard/Shortcut/Mission control/....

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 17:57:04 GMT

Here's a screenshot of my current mission control settings, mission control keyboard settings, app shortcut settings, and AC Shortcuts PDF.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:00:24 GMT

As a side note: no, I'm not mistakenly pressing the F1 key, which doesnt work without pressing the cmd key anyway... (using a logi Craft Advanced Keyboard)

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Christophe Fortineau — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 18:52:43 GMT

Did you try to use another keyboard ?

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:21:24 GMT

I tried using the builtin keyboard (esc is on the touch bar), and it still minimized after pressing ESC. I also had an apple keyboard that I used to use, and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 20:58:46 GMT

Doing a quick test. Pressing ESC click in Mail and Safari Apps causes them to leave "Full Screen" but in my case AC does not minimize on hitting ESC so there must be another setting that is causing this.
In my KBS for AC I have the ESC key mapped to the ARROW tool so you could try that.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 28 Aug 2019 22:21:07 GMT

Ok, so, I've tried it on another computer, also a Mac, same version of AC, all the same settings for OSX and AC.

This is what I've realized: it happens with files that are big enough to take some processing time for certain commands; when AC is in mid-command-processing—even if the little watch-cursor doesn't come up because the particular process is quick—if I press ESC, the AC window will exit full screen.

I can press ESC multiple times when AC is not processing anything at all, and ESC will not cause exit full screen. I can also press esc with a tool selected, a marquee selection and object selected, and after three ESC presses, AC will not exit full screen.

This all being said, I really hope there is a way to stop AC from existing full screen when I press ESC under any circumstance, even if AC is in mid command-processing.

Any thoughts?

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Wed, 04 Sep 2019 15:37:29 GMT

No further thoughts?

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 04 Sep 2019 16:52:52 GMT

Nope from my side, can't reproduce it.
Looks like you a particular setup that causes this.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

PB — Thu, 05 Sep 2019 15:54:15 GMT

Just for info: this Mac OS ‘behaviour’ also drives me mad...would be delighted if someone has a remedy...

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 05 Sep 2019 16:00:10 GMT

Just as a test. In AC assign the ESC key to a tool by editing your work environment. Hopefully this will override the OS since I don’t have that issue.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Mon, 07 Dec 2020 23:36:21 GMT

Hello,
So, the issue seemed to stop in a late update of AC 23, and then I upgraded to 24, and it's happening again. It is really driving me crazy. Is there anything notable from the Graphisoft side about this issue seemingly having disappeared, and then reappeared in 24?

Thanks for any help.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 17:26:48 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
Just as a test. In AC assign the ESC key to a tool by editing your work environment. Hopefully this will override the OS since I don’t have that issue.

Ok, so, I'm not sure how I missed this suggestion of yours, but I'm almost 100% sure that this has fixed the issue! Brilliant. Thanks so much. Life changer.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

keene kopper — Tue, 08 Dec 2020 21:21:35 GMT

ejrolon wrote:
Just as a test. In AC assign the ESC key to a tool by editing your work environment. Hopefully this will override the OS since I don’t have that issue.

Actually—it just did it again. That didn't work. If I press ESC while the color wheel is spinning, it exits full screen. I know this sounds avoidable, but pressing escape is super important for me, at least, to make sure nothing else is selected during my next command.

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 15 Dec 2020 14:14:53 GMT

Dear Keene,

Thank you very much for your report and I am sorry about the experience!

I believe hitting Esc to exit Full-Screen mode is the default behavior of macOS. Even in default apps, like Safari or Mail, Esc will bring everything out of Full-screen mode.

Searching for this issue on the internet, here are some suggestions to help you get around this issue on system level:
https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/110569/disable-esc-shortcut-to-quit-fullscreen
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47851333/how-to-disable-esc-to-exit-fullscreen-macos-high-sierra/49773879
https://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/8p8spm/disable_exiting_fullscreen_with_esc/

I hope this will help you with the issue! Please let me know if you have further questions!

Best regards,
Minh

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

PB — Sat, 16 Jan 2021 12:35:29 GMT

Marvellous !

This seems to be working for me (so far)...

https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/110569/disable-esc-shortcut-to-quit-fullscreen

Many thanks everyone, and notably mnguyen

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

PB — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 09:01:32 GMT

Seems I celebrated too soon: It worked until restarted my Mac the following morning and is now ineffectual...

From the comments section, a clarification:

"The problem here is that the native shortcut by default is Ctrl-Cmd-F. Overriding the "Exit Full Screen" menu will only override the Ctrl-Cmd-F but ESC seems to have been implemented separately without a menu item"
– Theuni Feb 1 '19 at 11:25

"Exactly. This doesn't work for ESC for reasons mentioned in comments"
– Paul Dec 10 '19 at 23:10

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

PB — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 10:49:30 GMT

Success !

(so far, so good...)

Having installed Karabiner (https://karabiner-elements.pqrs.org), I downloaded the file for 'Don't exit fullscreen when pressing ESC in Safari' (https://ke-complex-modifications.pqrs.org/?q=esc) although I later realised that this can be done from directly within Karabiner.

File opened in TextEdit and modified to substitute "com.apple.Safari" with "com.graphisoft.Archicad", and update the description text at the beginning.

Seems to work without any glitches (...so far...)

My 'Don't exit fullscreen when pressing ESC in ArchiCAD' modified script is available at the link below - but please remember that I am not a programmer in any way or form, and I accept absolutely no responsibility for its use: Use at your peril !

https://www.dropbox.com/s/jffgpfzbvjxdadd/ArchiCAD%20Esc%20Key%20disable%20Exit%20Full%20Screen.json?dl=0

Re: How can I prevent my full screen mode AC screen from minimizing upon pressing ESC.

Minh Nguyen — Tue, 19 Jan 2021 11:12:32 GMT

Hello,

Thank you very much for sharing the tips! This would be very useful for us in the future. I truly appreciate it!

Have a great day!

Best regards,
Minh