topic Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO in Installation & update

another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Wed, 25 Sep 2019 05:06:56 GMT

nvidia have released a studio driver that supports 30 bit coloUr
for the geoforce lineup.
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/studio-driver/

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Steve Jepson — Thu, 26 Sep 2019 16:15:38 GMT

Dump the Quadro ?? I don't think so! Quadro graphics cards still have (arguably at least) the highest quality, durability, and performance you can get in a Windows OS Workstation for use with ArchiCAD and/or any Rendering/Animation/VR program.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/workstations/

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/design-visualization/industries/architecture-engineering-construction/

http://resources.nvidia.com/c/quadro-aec-brochure-?x=2M1M8D

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Lingwisyer — Fri, 27 Sep 2019 01:12:31 GMT

If you need the reliability and / or huge amounts of vRam, consumer cards are just not going to cut it...

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 00:11:40 GMT

sure if you need massive vram,
but for a lot of people I'd say they don't need it, or even come close to maxing out the GPU vram.

I still refer back to the floating point performance,

a $1000(aud) Rtx 2080 , has almost as good single and double performance numbers
then a
$3500 Quadro rtx Rtx 5000
and beats a $1500 Quadro rtx 4000

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 12:21:21 GMT

give me one example where a gpu with ECC ram has actually saved you time or a job ?

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Steve Jepson — Sun, 29 Sep 2019 14:09:49 GMT

vortextheory wrote:
forgot to ask, give me one example where a gpu with ECC ram has actually saved you time or a job ?

Rendering. I use a GPU and 64GB of ECC every day and would not mind having another 64GB of ram. Twinmotion for one example. Lumion, Maxwell.... I use these programs frequently. It saves me a lot of time. It's not efficient to use some of these programs without the GPU/CUDA Cores.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Erwin Edel — Mon, 30 Sep 2019 07:24:17 GMT

I have a cheap laptop at home with a gaming GPU from nVidia, I find the driver updating process with the gaming app fairly annoying compared to the by now very dated quadro K2000 GPU in my windows workstation. It still runs fine, still supported for WIN10. Not good for the twinmotion renderings and such, but built to last.

That said, I'm sure a gaming GPU will do fine for archicad, as I think many people have pointed out on this forum before.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Lingwisyer — Thu, 17 Oct 2019 06:59:53 GMT

I would not have thought that ECC RAM is worth the cost for your average GPU rendering machine. If there is a memory error, does it kill the render or just result in a render flaw? For high end video rendering I guess it might save you from a corrupt compile, but for stills, does it save that much? Feel like more than doubling your
RAM would be more cost effective / saving than the error correction.

Ling.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Oct 2019 05:58:53 GMT

to add fuel to the fire,
the RTX 2080 (now old, released a YEAR ago)
don't even appear (or haven't been tested) in AC 22 reccomendations
let alone the NEW SUPER duper cards or TITAN !
https://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/knowledgebase/83528/
you would think these recomendations would be updated soon, considering the partership with UNREAL and Twinmotion requiring RAY TRACING !!! DER

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Erwin Edel — Tue, 22 Oct 2019 06:45:45 GMT

Partnership or not, that's still 3rd party software, so you would more logically look up a list of recommendations from that software?

For ArchiCAD unless you are pushing a lot more polygons from switching from version to version there seems little reason to upgrade the GPU.

A new 4K or 5K screen would be a reason, but running ArchiCAD on HD screen doesn't require much. At least I have no issues with my old Nvidia K2000.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Lingwisyer — Wed, 23 Oct 2019 01:27:09 GMT

One reason that there are not many gaming cards on the list might be due to the frequent driver updates, which are not always the best for stability. Someone buys the "recommended card", installs the current drivers and it works. The next month, someone else buys that same card and installs a newer driver and it does not work. Not the best for consumer confidence...

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Erwin Edel — Wed, 23 Oct 2019 06:44:24 GMT

Think it's, for example, Nvidia that only certifies their pro GPU for ArchiCAD. I don't think GS certifies hardware.

So I'm guessing GS is testing one or two gaming cards now and then and Nvidia tests a selection of their pro line-up.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Sat, 02 Nov 2019 10:30:43 GMT

so my new RTX 2070 super, is fricken awesome. I'm trying to get hold of a quadro for some testing and comparison.

side note: it's nice to be back on a desktop system with direct connection to the gpu. I'll never touch a laptop with nvidia optimus and intel 630 again unless you can disable it. Also the AMD 3900x just chews through anything.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Anonymous — Sun, 07 Jun 2020 10:15:02 GMT

vortextheory wrote:
so my new RTX 2070 super, is fricken awesome. I'm trying to get hold of a quadro for some testing and comparison.

side note: it's nice to be back on a desktop system with direct connection to the gpu. I'll never touch a laptop with nvidia optimus and intel 630 again unless you can disable it. Also the AMD 3900x just chews through anything.

Hi,
were you able to get some Quadro and to run some comparative tests?

I'm asking because I'm going to buy a (used, 200€) M4000 Quadro for ArchiCAD only, with a 1070 as help with twinmotion. But I'm very scared to have some loss of performance even in ArchiCAD.

Re: another reason to ditch QUADRO

Karol Argasinski — Mon, 08 Jun 2020 13:44:08 GMT

I was QUADRO user for a long time, then I "took risk" with RTX 2070 and it is all I need. Works perfect, never had any problems regarding GPU/OpenGL (I had with Quadro). "Gaming graphic" appears more stable for me (I was using both mobile Quadro K3100 and PC K5200).

I use GPU massively, when rendering pointclouds and RTX works just better. I know it shouldn't but it is what it is (for that kind of money).