topic Re: Ryzen 7 in Installation & update

Ryzen 7

justdhruv — Sun, 04 Jun 2017 17:39:07 GMT

Has anyone tried using archicad on a 8 core amd ryzen machine.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Wed, 07 Jun 2017 22:03:04 GMT

justdhruv wrote:
Has anyone tried using archicad on a 8 core amd ryzen machine.

I just got an AMD R7 1700 and i've been using it for the past few days with AC20. It's running smoothly and quiet. I've upgraded from an i5 4590 and i did feel a difference. The biggest difference was when rendering and rebuilding sections and elevations. Another big difference i've spotted was when rendering with Artlantis. Those 16threads will be worth every penny. I'm planning to overclocking to see if it's worth the trouble and might get back to leave an update.
Overall AMD did a great job with the new processors but still has a long way to surpass intel on singlecore performance. However i believe it to be the best choice for workstations as it has the best performance/price ratio. I'm not an AMD fanboy, I'm stating my opinion. If i didn't believe so, I could return it and get an equivalent priced Intel. Also, the motherboards manufacturers are still working on improving their products. For example I got an MSI B350 Gaming PRO that still needs some touching up. For instance, i got 16gb ram Corsairs Vengeance 3200mhz but the system is not stable at that speed. At the moment they only work at 3000mhz but MSI should release a new BIOS update to improve compatibility.

Re: Ryzen 7

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 14:33:21 GMT

Mokdabu,

Thanks for the feedback, please let us know any info you might want to share about ARCHICAD running on a AMD Ryzen machine.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 15:49:37 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Mokdabu,

Thanks for the feedback, please let us know any info you might want to share about ARCHICAD running on a AMD Ryzen machine.

Hello Lazlo,
Since my last post i got to overclock the CPU to 3.6ghz. I couldn't go higher because of the heat. I'm planning to get a watercooler so i can raise the clock even higher, hopefully to 4.0. But even with 3.6 ghz i can feel the difference. The projects open up faster and elevations/sections also generate and update much faster. There is also an improvement when rendering with Archicad's Cinerender but i don't use it since i'm working with Artlantis. The motherboard manufacturers have yet to improve their bios an hopefully they will release a new one this month. It's definitely worth to upgrade to AMD but for those who do not want to do manual tweaking to the bios, i suggest they wait a couple more months until everything will run super smooth on it's own.
Any questions, feel free to ask.
Have a great day!

Re: Ryzen 7

Laszlo Nagy — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 17:08:16 GMT

Sounds good, thanks for the info.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Sat, 10 Jun 2017 18:08:31 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Sounds good, thanks for the info.

Always a pleasure, Lazlo!
A wonderful weekend to you!

Re: Ryzen 7

justdhruv — Sun, 09 Jul 2017 17:52:13 GMT

Are you facing any particular issues with the processors, that you feel will get ironed out after the bios updates.

It would be great if you post approximate benchmarks for any one of your files, comparing intel and AMD

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Jul 2017 13:50:11 GMT

justdhruv wrote:
Are you facing any particular issues with the processors, that you feel will get ironed out after the bios updates.

It would be great if you post approximate benchmarks for any one of your files, comparing intel and AMD

Not quite. The processor runs fine. The only issues are when overclocking. The system is not stable yet due to the ram compatibility issues. Since my last post MSI has released a new BIOS version which clearly improved the RAM compatibility but they still need to work on it until everything runs smooth when overclocking. At the moment, if you get a new AMD system and update the bios and run at stock setting, you are going to be perfectly fine. You may also be fine if you're lucky when overclocking but it's a gamble. Al these problems should not exist since they officially released the new chips, however i will let it slide since it's completely new platform.

Regarding benchmarks, i am sorry but i am not able to do any comparisons since i don't have the old intel system anymore.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:00:24 GMT

A new machine in our office runs on AMD.
Spec:
Ryzen 1800X, 32 GB 2666, AMD Radeon Pro WX7100, Evo 960 M2 SSD.
Archicad 20 runs better comparing to my old one i7-3790, 32 gb, W8100. Other programs run much faster.
IMHO - Ryzen + Radeon PRO is a great combo at moment, worth buying!

Re: Ryzen 7

nitizz — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 07:06:28 GMT

Thanks a lot for the feedback. Its worth buying it. Im planning to purchase a new ryzen rig

Re: Ryzen 7

Steve Jepson — Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:05:26 GMT

We need a benchmark test file to compare systems with.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Mon, 09 Oct 2017 02:54:57 GMT

Hi guys,

Running archicad 21 & 17 on a brand new Ryzen 7 1700x/B350/Win 10 system, and have not been impressed at all with the performance

Sure rendering is lightning fast but when working in both Archicad 17 and 21 its just so laggy and unresponsive - like delays when selecting objects, choosing layers, deleting items, de-selecting objects etc. Panning around is super smooth though.

Everything else absolutely FLIES on this pc (MS office, cinebench, corona benchmark, photoshop, gaming etc etc)

Have had lots of back & forward with graphisoft support and the only thing they can think of is that archicad isn't optimised for the AMD Ryzen cpu instruction set.. can post their response if anyone interested..

And if anyone wants some kind of benchmark done let me know.. and keen to hear about anyone else on Ryzen and how its going for them?

Cheers

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Nov 2017 23:25:36 GMT

Hi guys.

This might sound like a cliché but it seems that there´s different thoughts on the Ryzen 7-

The latest in this thread was a negative one, in comparison to earlier posts...

Im just about to buy a gaming rig for my ArchiCAD Home office, and AMD Ryzen seems to be the best buy!

Right now I´m heavily underpowered when rendering with cinerender (and rebuilding complex 3d documents) But I would not like to comprise with lacking when selecting objects, and doing standard operations!

Also I´m rendering with Indigo Render from C4d, and for this part I need a videocard with lots of RAM.

So any (more) thoughts on a Ryzen setup (and the gtx 1080 8gb if you´d like) would be appreciated.

Have a great weekend.

If you´re interested then here´s the setup with default config.
(I would upgrade the PSU, cooler, ssd and the motherboard)

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Op til 3.7GHz 8 cores / 16 threads
– AMD Wraith cooler
ASUS STRIX GTX 1080 8GB
16GB 2666MHz Corsair Vengeance LPX
Asus Prime B350m-K
120GB Kingston A400 SSD
1TB Toshiba P300 64MB 7200RPM
Corsair TX550m – 80+ Gold
Phanteks P300 – Tempered glass Black

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 09:36:07 GMT

Steve wrote:
We need a benchmark test file to compare systems with.

Hello,
I've also built an AMD system with a Ryzen 2600.
We could use the Graphisoft example project and a specific publisher set to benchmark the system.

I'm also curious how would a Ryzen 1700 perform as in a bim server system, they are currently a great value cpu!

Re: Ryzen 7

MMontgomery — Wed, 31 Oct 2018 15:06:03 GMT

Hi Fabio -

I'm curious as to how snappy your Ryzen 2600 feels in ArchiCAD. I'm using an Intel i7-2700K (8 years old) and it is very laggy and constantly feels a few steps behind.

I'm waiting for an i9-9900K CPU, but not sure when they will be in stock, so I'm considering Ryzen or Threadripper. Reading some of the other comments about the 1st Gen Ryzen CPUs I'm not convinced the AMD platform would be an upgrade in day to day interaction in ArchiCAD. What has your experience been?

Re: Ryzen 7

justdhruv — Sun, 10 Nov 2019 14:37:34 GMT

Just wanted to bump up this thread. Ryzen is on Gen 3 now, and hit 16 cores this month. Graphisoft has had two years and two versions to optimise for AMD.

I wanted to ask,
I know the cinerender will use all the cores. But How many cores can Archicad, Usefully use, for generating sections and updating viewports?

is it worth going for a 12 or 16 core, or is 8 core what archicad can handle?

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:02:11 GMT

Hi, followup question here

im starting a course in Archicad for interior designers. And wondering if anyone has tried to run Archicad on the new Lenovo Yoga 7 Slim with AMD Ryzen 7 4700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 and 16 gb ram.

Hope someone will help me here:)

best regards
Mikel

Re: Ryzen 7

Barry Kelly — Thu, 27 Aug 2020 01:39:48 GMT

Mikel wrote:
Hi, followup question here

im starting a course in Archicad for interior designers. And wondering if anyone has tried to run Archicad on the new Lenovo Yoga 7 Slim with AMD Ryzen 7 4700U, AMD Radeon RX Vega 7 and 16 gb ram.

Hope someone will help me here:)

best regards
Mikel

The best way to find out will be to down load the software and give it a try yourself.
You don't need to purchase anything, it will run in demo mode which is fine to evaluate if it works.
If it does then you can look at buying a license or applying for a free student license.

Barry.

Re: Ryzen 7

Anonymous — Mon, 31 Aug 2020 10:07:24 GMT

Thanks Barry

I have purchased it now, hope it will run. I cant test it on computer before I have it, thats why I asked if it would run:)

Re: Ryzen 7

Barry Kelly — Tue, 01 Sep 2020 01:41:20 GMT

Mikel wrote:
Thanks Barry

I have purchased it now, hope it will run. I cant test it on computer before I have it, thats why I asked if it would run:)

Ah, I took it that you already had the computer and were going to do a course that used Archicad and you wanted to know if it would run on that machine.

Barry.