topic Re: Ctrl-C = Crash in Installation & update

Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:10:47 GMT

It seems there is a new shortcut.

Ctrl-C = CRASH.

At least it does the first time I use it each day, if I have restarted my computer. After that it works fine, relaunch Archicad and all is good, Ctrl-C like crazy.... until I turn my computer off again, restart, launch Archicad, work, work, work, Ctrl-C - and it just hangs up.

I am starting to get one step ahead and saving immediately before using Ctrl-C to copy, meaning no work lost, but was wondering if anyone else is experiencing similar symptoms.

Cheers

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

__archiben — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 20:18:05 GMT

don't do it then?!

but seriously - i have heard talk before that there is some kind of trouble with windows copy/paste functionality . . . maybe it's an extension of this? do you have any 3rd party system add-ons that could be interfering?

~/archiben

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Laura Yanoviak — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 21:17:02 GMT

s2art wrote:
It seems there is a new shortcut.

Ctrl-C = CRASH

Interesting... Ctrl-C used to = CANCEL in AutoCAD way-back-when...

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 23:21:16 GMT

~/archiben wrote:
don't do it then?!

Maybe next time I will try right click-copy instead, if I remember.

~/archiben wrote:
but seriously - i have heard talk before that there is some kind of trouble with windows copy/paste functionality . . . maybe it's an extension of this? do you have any 3rd party system add-ons that could be interfering?

Don't think so.

Baffles me as to why this only occurs once, upon starting up (no matter how long after start-up, still the first Ctrl-C operation).

Laura wrote:
Interesting... Ctrl-C used to = CANCEL in AutoCAD way-back-when...

Ah, yes, Those were the days.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

LiHigh — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 01:06:16 GMT

s2art wrote:
It seems there is a new shortcut.

Ctrl-C = CRASH.

Yes, it happened to me quite often especially when used in Library editor.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 02:18:17 GMT

Glad ( ) to know I'm not the only one. Terima kasih.

Is this a windows only thing?

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 03:18:47 GMT

I have had CMD+V (paste Mac OS version) crash AC when copying lines to a custom profile ( either between floor plan or profile to profile) and I just crashed it while trying it out to see if it was fixed in the 1010 update. So definitively not a Windows only problem.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

David Collins — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 06:43:00 GMT

s2art wrote:
Ctrl-C = CRASH.

This one's been around for a while. In Windows:
The thing is not to panic when ArchiCAD freezes.
Remain calm and toggle yourself into My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Select any file. Don't open it. Just light it up.
Go back to ArchiCAD. It should no longer be catatonic.
Save. Close. Reboot. Swear. Coffee.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:57:07 GMT

Thanks David. I've tried going to task manager and hitting "switch to" button (which has worked on other hangs) but got nothing. I'll try your method if it happens again.

Cheers

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Thu, 09 Nov 2006 20:33:40 GMT

News just in....

It appears this is a windows problem, nothing to do with Archicad at all.

Yesterday it happened when Crtl+C'ing from outlook.

Started up this morning and it hung up when doing a "Print scrn" screen capture. David's solution revived it.

TGIF

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Fabrizio Diodati — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 12:23:27 GMT

I'm just a bit curious...
All the people who got this Ctrl+C trouble... did install Office?
I'm asking this because I have the feeling the trouble starting to appear as soon as I installed Office on my laptop and the Office Suite has a system "add-on" that handle the clipboard content...
If I quit the Office program (usually all of us have Outlook in the background) the trouble seems to disappear or, at least, occurs less often...

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

David Collins — Sun, 12 Nov 2006 06:40:02 GMT

Fabrizio wrote:
I'm just a bit curious...
All the people who got this Ctrl+C trouble... did install Office?

I have Office installed and get this crash occasionally. Your suspicians seem well founded.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Stephen Dolbee — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 13:51:00 GMT

Same here. Control-C sometimes locks up my computer. Hasn't happened when using right-click. Has never happened in other programs, but I use AC soooo much more than any other program.
(I do have Office installed, though)

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

LiHigh — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:21:19 GMT

David wrote:
Fabrizio wrote:
I'm just a bit curious...
All the people who got this Ctrl+C trouble... did install Office?
I have Office installed and get this crash occasionally. Your suspicians seem well founded.

I don't have office install but still have the same problem.....

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Fabrizio Diodati — Mon, 13 Nov 2006 14:22:17 GMT

Yes, I fully agree: the trouble occurs (at least to me) only if I use the shortcut Ctrl+C, it doesn't appear (quite funny!) if I use the Copy command from the Edit menu or that one from the contextual menu (right-click)...
BTW, for sure it doesn't depend on ArchiCAD: I got the same trouble also using other software...
And, finally, yes: when the application freezes if you go on the desktop and select a file (or open a folder) anything come back to work fine.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Wed, 06 Dec 2006 22:15:57 GMT

I have the same problem, but my AC doesn't freeze, it crashes, and i can't do anythung. I don't think that it is windows problem because I don't have this in another programs, especially in AC9.

i can't resolve this problem. The only resolution is to reinstall AC, it's terrible. I've reinstalled AC, everything vas cool, but during some time it repeated.

Maby the problem is, that by pressing ctrl+c I press one more button, or clik a mouse, or make 2 commands at one time because i work fast, everything can happen, ok let the AC crashes, but can i resolve this problem by another way, without reinstalling, or to find out where is the problem!

Oh! and the last. It crashes not only by ctrl+c but after evry copy command in AC10(by right button, by using menu...)

AC10 v.1010 FULL

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Greg Kmethy — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 11:01:42 GMT

There might be two separate issues here:

1) Freeze (Archicad header turns white, nothing happens)
Graphisoft programmers investigated this very thoroughly, and came to the conclusion that it is probably a Windows problem. I personally experienced this with Outlook vs. Word, with no Archicad running. We can't help it. The workaround is what David mentioned:

Remain calm and toggle yourself into My Computer or Windows Explorer.
Select any file. Don't open it. Just light it up.

2) Crash
If Archicad crashes, then it is a different problem. Often this could indicate a protection-related problem, possibly a broken WIBU-key. (copy command is a security checkpoint). Try a different WIBU-key, if you can, or try reinstall the WIBU driver. But either way, do contact your local tech support with the crash ID, and they will figure out what happens.

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Anonymous — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 21:24:23 GMT

Where is this WIBU-key. Is this a part of AC, or a windows driver.

Why i had not such a problem in AC9?

Re: Ctrl-C = Crash

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 13:30:12 GMT

WIBU key is the hardware protection for Archicad. If you don't have it, you might be using a crack version, which explains why it crashes. You might want to talk to your local Archicad reseller...