topic Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks. in Installation & update

Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Jimmy — Fri, 30 Jun 2023 23:59:55 GMT

my 2cents, hopefully this might save others time and money.

just bought a new mbp m2 max, it sucks, im returning it.

It doens't come close to my alienware x17r2 (i7 with rtx 3080 ti)

3d modeling is just terrible, where I spend a lot of time.
I didn't buy this machine for rendering.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Karl Ottenstein — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 02:31:03 GMT

FWIW, My MacBook Pro M2 Max is a totally awesome machine... double the performance of my previous (dead) iMac Pro which was ridiculously powerful. All functions are fast, fluid and I have yet to hear the fan go on.

@Jimmy I have to wonder if you had installed the Intel version of AC 26 by mistake, vs the Apple Siliicone/ARM version...along with all updates? It should be vastly superior to the Alienware that you describe.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Jimmy — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 03:08:04 GMT

Hey Karl,
no it was arm version. I was really hopeful it would work as I love the mbp portability.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Lee Hankins — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 06:48:54 GMT

That is odd. All of our M series Mac’s way outperform our Intel based machines. We’re slowly upgrading everything. Most are just MacMini’s and they perform brilliantly.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Lee Hankins — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 06:49:29 GMT

Just to check, you haven’t got any of the power saving features turned on have you when running on battery?

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Jimmy — Sat, 01 Jul 2023 17:13:52 GMT

No, running full tilt.

Lee, are you comparing your apple systems to Intel Mac's, or windows systems ?

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Lee Hankins — Sun, 02 Jul 2023 15:34:24 GMT

We’re fully Mac based. I’ve even got Archicad 26 running through Windows 11 through Parallels on my M1 Max MacBook Pro and it zooms.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Unabend — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 10:21:34 GMT

I have the same problems as Jimmy. By now I'm desperate, even working on small files weighing less than 100Mb the performance of Archicad on a Macbook Pro M2Max with 64Gb of ram is ... simply sucks.

I'm ruined, I spent 5000€ on a very expensive toy.

See my previous post few days ago:

https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Installation-update/Archicad-Macbook-M2Max-HUGE-performance-problem/td-p/385990

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 11:32:56 GMT

Wasn't the problem in that post related to imported DWGs and wasn't it fixed?

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Unabend — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 12:54:53 GMT

Hi Eduardo!

No, new file new project...

A simple little sloped terrain (mesh), some slabs on it, and few solid operations or change of materials... that Archicad execute in 20/30 seconds or more 😰

Why i've bought Mac?

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 13:45:13 GMT

I would guess it is a model issue again and not the Mac.

4000'x4000' terrain with a lot of nodes
subtract 75 walls 400' long and 400' High
Time 10 seconds with 3 other ACs open.

As a test change the Intersection Priority (In Layers) of the elements you are using to subtract from the mesh

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 13:49:17 GMT

Rotating 50 walls 6 seconds to rebuild

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 13:54:10 GMT

Adding 81 slabs (100'x100') and SEO with Upward extrusion ±50 sec

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:10:38 GMT

But AC25 running in emulation is only a little bit slower.

On another note an SEO of 75 walls is slower than the one for 81 Slabs.

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Unabend — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:13:00 GMT

Thanks Mr. Stelvio :)))

Ok, Graphisoft Support send me an email, saying that the problem is yet the model not the Mac: 27,000 polygons in my Mesh it seems too much 🤔 ...but Apple say that my computer is INSANELY GREAT :))) WTF.........

Please, can you explain me how to interpretate your previous posts? Thanks!

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 14:18:25 GMT

I think if you buy the Quad Giulia and try to tow a cart with 200 bags of cement on it, the giulia might move a little slow, if at all, and it shouldn't be a surprise that your 0-60 time will suffer. 😁

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Unabend — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:15:24 GMT

Ok, but how many polygons does Archicad consider "many", "very many", "********" you idiot architect"? :))
I tried to install the Goodies containing the Polygon Count but for now I don't see it in the Palette list...
p.s. if I bought the Giulia Quadrifoglio I would warn you :))

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:22:05 GMT

The answer is that it depends. You always try to minimize or have to wait…

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Unabend — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:29:29 GMT

Ok... 27000 polygons is too much for Apple M2MAX...

But "max" what??? 👹

Or the problem is the "brain" of Archicad "apple silicon"...

Re: Apple MBP M2 MAX sucks.

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 13 Jul 2023 15:34:50 GMT

The one above has 107,305 without issues on M1.

SO I would guess that there is something wrong with your Mesh or with your SEOs