topic Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26 in Installation & update

Save Archicad 27 to 26

joelsdg — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 20:20:14 GMT

I think I recall having this issue a long time ago, with previous versions, but it's back in AC27 and I don't remember if/how I solved it in the past.

When I try to save a project I started in a previous version of AC (let's say AC22), had been using it in AC25 and AC26 without issue and brought to AC27 yesterday. No problems until I tried to save it back to AC26. I receive the error: "Cannot Save Plan file". The only option is to click OK. No explanation of what caused the problem. If I click OK, I'm just returned to the last window I was in when I started the "Save As...".

I tried a few different things:

Close the file and open with "Open & Repair" option checked.

Deleted various 2D elements (I was mostly interested in saving the 3D parts for someone else to use in their AC 26).

Opened a clean "Archicad 27 template.PLN" and then Merge the original AC27 file I wanted to eventually save to AC26.

I opened a project I had in the AC27 Preview format, opened it in the official AC27 release, but still couldn't save to AC26.

I opened another project I started in AC26, saved in AC27 but still couldn't save back to AC26.

I received the same error every time. And the AC26 version of the file I brought into AC27 just a day earlier saved back to AC25 no problem.

Anyone have any ideas why this is?

It is a rather large file (1.75GB) in my opinion. And has a few different hillside terrain models to go with the house that are over 2.5 acres (over 11,000 square meters) each.

Is this a bug? It doesn't crash, it just won't save to AC26.

The attached file is just a screenshot of the error message.

Any help appreciated,

Joel

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

Barry Kelly — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 01:07:41 GMT

I am not sure, but is it an issue of where the file is being saved to?

Barry.

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

rbtubby — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 03:49:24 GMT

I've also come across this issue.

I have tried to back-save from the desktop to the desktop and had no success.

I made sure the new file would have had a unique name, and also ensured that no space characters, nor any other special characters were used. Still no luck.

I get the same pop-up message: "Cannot save Plan file".

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

TDabney — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:37:17 GMT

That's interesting... I was able to back save a project from AC27 to AC26 last week. It was project that I had started anew in AC27, not one that I'd started in an earlier version and migrated upwards. I wonder if that made the difference for my success?

Best,

Tom

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

joelsdg — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 16:44:15 GMT

I haven't tried changing the Save As... location, but I did make sure it had a different name and that all of the permissions were valid (we're a MacOS office). And I see someone else tried changing save locations, and it didn't matter.

I also didn't have trouble saving an AC26 version of the same project in the same location back to AC25.

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

joelsdg — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 17:07:26 GMT

You may be onto something there, but all of our projects start from whatever version we're on at the time. Then I migrate up as Graphisoft updates the software, as each project allows or not.

Otherwise, I'm assuming I'd have to recreate everything all of the custom linetypes, fills, wall composites, etc. every time I moved to a new version of Archicad. I've assumed wrong in the past, but that's my first inclination of doing such a thing.

Joel

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

TDabney — Mon, 16 Oct 2023 18:41:54 GMT

I think you're generally correct that you have to do a lot of recreating if you're not migrating from an earlier version. I use attribute manager to do a lot of it for me, but it still takes time and some level of diligence to bring a "new and reset" project up to speed. Every so often, I use upgrading as an opportunity to go through my typical project template and sift out accumulated unused layers, line types, materials, surfaces, composite etc... to trim down all the stuff I have to scroll through to find what I need while working w/in AC... I try to do that when I know I have some free time and am not under a time crunch, because it can be a long tedious process!

Best,

Tom

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

Robby — Wed, 18 Oct 2023 06:43:27 GMT

Yep- I have the same problem.

I tried with several files with different complexities but made no difference.

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

pnguillen — Mon, 23 Oct 2023 20:29:35 GMT

I'm experiencing the same issue;

if someone already figured out this flaw and could help me out back saving my current 27 file to 26; i would trully trully appreciate it

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hxoebwqegl11n4ub4f1b8/Muhlen_Sept262023.pln?rlkey=76scj11fa5fgm2d9mkswddm7i&dl=0

Thanks in advanced

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

Henry Berger — Wed, 25 Oct 2023 14:19:51 GMT

Hi pnguillen,

Here is a link to your file converted to Archicad 26, and the method to do it yourself is as follows:

https://graphisoft.sharefile.com/d-sf9cf0c637a5c4eb4aab8295d1f9dc6e9

Open the file in Architect 27 and then open up the Library Manager

Click on your embedded Library, select all items on the right-hand side of the box then the Export button down at the bottom.

Check the folder to be sure that all Library parts were exported properly.

Go back to Archicad 27 and delete all contents of the Embedded Library.

At this point the project should save back to 26 successfully.

Open the file on Archicad 26 to confirm everything saved back as expected.

As an additional note, open the Library Manager and click the migrate libraries button to roll back the library parts Archicad 26 items instead.

All the Best,

Henry Berger

Senior Technical Support Engineer

Graphisoft North America

AC 4.1-27; macOS Ventura; 2021 MacBook Pro Apple M1 Max

Betreff: Save Archicad 27 to 26

Nurbs — Sun, 05 Nov 2023 16:08:59 GMT

Hi Guys,

Could it be that this is a Mac related issue only? You're all Mac users as I see in the signatures. I can't see any problems on Windows when saving back to AC 26.

Re: Save Archicad 27 to 26

genarch — Thu, 11 Apr 2024 23:27:10 GMT

Thank you, I was having the same issue trying to save from 27 to 26 and was able to do so after deleting the embedded library objects.

I find v27 to be too irritatingly slow in the 3D window so I'm going back to 26 until I can afford to upgrade my hardware. Hoping Apple releases an M3 Mac Studio soon!