topic Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input in Installation & update

Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

tpike66 — Mon, 13 Nov 2023 08:08:11 GMT

I usually set my units to Fractional Inches. When I try to move an element a fraction of an inch using the forward slash (i.e. 3/4) the input gets an undesired entry upon hitting the forward slash ("/"). This didn't happen in AC26. The glitch also happens on both Windows and macOS. To get the screenshot to show 3/4, I had to type /4 and then move cursor back to front and type the 3. It works and moves it 3/4", but I hate that solution. I can also use decimal (i.e. .75) but that isn't user friendly when inputting other fractions in decimal format. I hope this is an easy fix.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 30 Jan 2024 22:07:10 GMT

Can Confirm that if Units are set to Fractional Inches it typing / removes the first digit working as if Decimal Inches is selected.

This is a Bug in 27 introduced when they added math functions to the tracker.

The other bug is this one:

Initially during the Beta "/" after a digit was used for division, this was changed to "//" so that tipping "#/" would mean inches.

Except that it was not a complete fix, since it only works in some occasions and your use of fractions only might be showing more errors.

It took me a while to figure out what is wrong in 27 but basically the standard workflow for placing or starting to draw a specific distance (in inches) from a reference point has been:

Place the checkmark on the reference point (do NOT move the temporary origin "x" to that point)
Type X or Y depending on which axis you want to go in order to activate the tracker
Type the distance followed by the / then +or- to select the direction.
Hit return

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In 27 this works as long as you are moving in the negative direction (down or to the left).

IE if you want to place an object 36" to the left of the reference checkmark you type:

X36/-

This one still works.

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If you want to place it to the right by typing

X36/+

it will ignore the / and start 36 feet from the reference point.

If you type: X36"+ it works correctly. So does X36/-+

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I wish there was an option to globally deactivate that "upgrade" and have the tracker work as it has for the last 20+ versions.

This is another of the examples of a well intention upgrade done by someone that has no idea how AC is used beyond their little corner of the desk. If you use the metric system there are no issues but sadly that is not the only unit system in the world and the developer in charge forgot that the US does not work like that.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

tpike66 — Thu, 09 Nov 2023 17:02:52 GMT

If it is a bug, are they going to fix it? I rely heavily on moving things a fraction of an inch when designing, and this not working as it has in the 20+ versions really hurts productivity.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 10 Nov 2023 12:18:41 GMT

Unofficially been told that it is in the "to be fixed" list but it has been there in different form since the Beta.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

srdavids — Tue, 30 Jan 2024 21:29:51 GMT

Just spent 15 minutes trying to figure out why 2/ wasn't working to divide a distance in half. FINALLY stumbled on your post that explains the // for division. You would think GS would change ANY of their marketing materials for the intelligent tracker to reflect that...

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 21:40:59 GMT

This is still broken in 27.2.0 Preview. ☹️

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Lingwisyer — Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:02:49 GMT

Maybe it's finally time for everyone to transition from the freedom unit!

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

tpike66 — Fri, 09 Feb 2024 04:07:42 GMT

I agree!

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 09 Feb 2024 11:28:52 GMT

Would love to but we are stuck with it…

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 11 Feb 2024 13:59:11 GMT

Sorry for my ignorance, but what is a "freedom unit"?

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Sun, 11 Feb 2024 15:49:25 GMT

IIRC, "Freedom unit" makes reference to "Freedom Fries" which was the name one of the USA parties wanted to use for "French Fries" because the french were against the war in Irak…

So USA units vs Metric

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Laszlo Nagy — Sun, 11 Feb 2024 16:13:14 GMT

Wow, I didn't know that, thanks for the info.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

itadmin — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:19:17 GMT

I have always use the slash for fractional inches as 1/8/ for 1/8". Does this not work anymore because of the "improvements" made described in this post? Tried using this recently and what I was typing reverts back to the original dimension. Not sure I was even aware of this "upgrade" until now.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Tue, 11 Jun 2024 18:30:35 GMT

Yes. Now it only works on specific items. Still not fixed.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

tpike66 — Thu, 23 Jan 2025 23:09:48 GMT

This seems to have been fixed in AC28, if not in AC27.

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Fri, 24 Jan 2025 11:48:18 GMT

Still not fixed in 28

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

tpike66 — Sat, 25 Jan 2025 00:04:12 GMT

It's working on my installation of Windows 11 with AC28. I think it also worked on my installation of AC27 in a later update too.

Maybe not fixed on the Mac version?

Re: Archicad 27 - Tracker Input glitch using forward slash while in Fractional Inch input

Eduardo Rolon — Sat, 25 Jan 2025 01:58:59 GMT

Nope, the bug still exists.

In some cases it works but the particular case that I wrote above which is the way I have used AC since V8 is still broken.