topic Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only! in Installation & update

Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Tue, 09 Jul 2024 06:48:48 GMT

I hope Graphisoft will release Archicad 28 for Apple Silicon ONLY. This is so they will focus on one platform with having fewer problems on the initial release.

At this point no company should be running an Intel Mac. It is really worth the upgrade for everything else besides Archicad which seems to be having more issues after four years of the M Macs.

So get your act together Graphisoft!

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Jim Allen — Mon, 03 Jun 2024 16:00:51 GMT

"no company should be running an Intel Mac"

What - are you serious?

Macs famously last for years and function pretty much as well at the end of their life as they did when new.

Corporate IT people who purchase or pay for IT equipment often have preconceptions and many are anti-Apple. Typically they aren't people that appreciate the benefits in a work environment. They often won't countenance Macs in a PC environment. It's like the old saying "No-one ever got fired for buying IBM".

If you are lucky enough to have one, replacing it is not necessarily straightforward.

My last 2 Macs were very expensive, far more expensive than equivalent PCs and justified on the basis of longevity.

My iMac Pro is 6 years old and due for replacement. The Mac Pro which preceded it lasted 7 years.

Many small practitioners keep their Macs as long as they can - and you would propose to deny them the latest Archicad version.

Maybe leave these decisions to Graphisoft, who know more about their market than either of us.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Jp1138 — Mon, 03 Jun 2024 17:04:23 GMT

Maybe they should focus on the main platform, Windows, and leave Mac altogether. Windows would have less issues and Mac even less 😛

It´s a joke, of course, don´t hit me.

I´m not a mac user, but I don´t think they should leave so many people unatended. I suppose they have their use statictics and will stop supporting intel macs when it makes sense to them economically, no need to push them in that direction 😆

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

guinzo — Fri, 05 Jul 2024 11:35:29 GMT

And Graphisoft also need to leave only one language — Chinese — because it is spoken by the most people. It will reduce problems with wrong translation. lol

I think Intel should be supported as long as Apple supports it. My previous macbook pro worked for 9 years, and before I replacing it with the M3, it worked very good.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Sat, 06 Jul 2024 14:22:41 GMT

IT is now even more necessary for them to only develop for Apple Silicon on the macOS side. The M3 onward now has hardware ray tracing. Plus there will be Ai NPU features that Archicad will get since the new Snapdragon X PC's will offer this as well. Besides they are also Armed based. I would think somehow the Arm code could easily be transferred between MacOS ARM and Windows ARM. That leaves four year old at the youngest Intel Macs no future.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Gerald Hoffman — Wed, 10 Jul 2024 22:41:53 GMT

Hi archislave,

Not sure why you would post this as it looks like you are running ArchCad 16.0 US on an iMac by your signature.

I have the last intel MacBook Pro produced and my policy is always to get the top configuration other than storage capacity as I can usually make them last 4-5 years with ArchiCad before having to buy a new one. My logic is that this provides the best working experience with the software for as long as possible. Things definitely start slowing down towards the end of the cycle but as a single practitioner there is always a cost benefit analysis. I am for sure looking forward to the next computer but as I hear the M4 MacBook Pros might be released in the 4th quarter of 2024 I am trying to hang in there.

There are lots of users who have budget constraints for hardware given our software is getting more and more expensive as well so I for one would like the support on intel Macs for another year or two.

Cheers,

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Thu, 11 Jul 2024 01:29:34 GMT

Sorry Gerald, I forgot to update my profile. I was just hanging on for years due to legacy projects. I finally got an M2 Mac. I am sure the M4 will be ideal!

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Bricklyne Clarence — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 07:20:57 GMT

Not to step all over your witticism, but "Chinese" is not a language.

It's not spoken by anyone let alone,....... "the most people".

It's a nationality.

The languages you were looking for are either "Mandarin" or "Cantonese" (.....probably the former on account of it being the primary language in mainland China).

As you were.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Jim Allen — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:12:13 GMT

Not wanting to sound picky but although over 70% of Chinese people speak 'Standard Mandarin', China has hundreds of languages, and seven basic language groups which are mutually unintelligible.

Completely irrelevant but if you are going to refer to Cantonese there are other sinitic languages spoken by almost as many people: https://studycli.org/learn-chinese/languages-in-china/

I suspect some others will find it as fascinating as I do!

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Barry Kelly — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 09:20:11 GMT

That is enough off topic.

I should probably just remove both of those posts, but in the spirit of good humour, I will leave them.

Other moderators may decide to remove them.

If you have more to say on the subject please do so in private messages.

Any more posts and they will all be removed.

I can see this starting to get a little personal.

Barry.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 13:43:44 GMT

Actually, it is very informative. Most people think Chinese is one language like English. So let this be a real forum and not censored like certain governments instruct their "moderators" to do. My original comment was about phasing out the intel Mac version of Archicad so they can focus on ARM Mac and even Windows. So the whole language scenario was not quite so germane to the topic.

Byt the way, I can't find where to change my signature or information line the end showing the equipment and version.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

Gerald Hoffman — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 15:43:46 GMT

archislave, select your icon in upper right corner, select "My Settings" and then select "Personal Information" under "Personal". Your signature window will be on the right hand side of the page.

Cheers,

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Fri, 12 Jul 2024 16:39:25 GMT

Thank you so much. I had been there before, but had to scroll the little window to see the information to change it.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

lasse — Fri, 26 Jul 2024 21:29:47 GMT

When Archicad was first developed (started on Mac platform, pre Intel - 1986) it didn't support windows, or even the PC (properly) until about v5 or v6. Off topic, but its too bad there isn't a universal conversion tool that lets one re-open OLD archives, as I have data from the mid nineties/early 2000's that Id like to access. I don't have the backward compatibility workflow. Meh.

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

archislave — Sat, 27 Jul 2024 14:57:26 GMT

It really is. I maintained an old Mac mini for legacy projects. Then it just went out on me. Thankfully the SSD was not wiped. Then I discovered Archicad 26 did a great job of converting the v16 projects. I am not sure how to move beyond v26. I am beta testing v28 but it lacks a lot of libraries in the full version it seems. How can we load full US libraries?

Re: Archicad 28 should be Apple Silicon Only!

zoli79 — Thu, 10 Oct 2024 09:04:38 GMT

My Mac Mini's ethernet port got busted last month. I had to send the little box to service. (complete motherboard replacement...) 2+ weeks without my machine. I am lucky enough to have my old Imac 2015 in my daughter's possession to fall back to. I am very grateful that there is an Intel based 28 that runs on Monterey.