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i can't plot

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Jul 2024 07:06:12 GMT

Everytime i save document to layout always the AC must be closed and show report GRAPHISOFT BUG REPORT.. I use archicad 10 greek version

Re: i can't plot

Djordje — Sat, 21 Apr 2007 16:26:50 GMT

Which machine? Which OS?

Which plotter? Printer?

Are you sending the bug reports to your reseller?

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 06:40:07 GMT

thank's i don't have os i have pc windows xp and my plotter is hp designjet 500 plus

fill and plot

Anonymous — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 10:28:25 GMT

hi i work archicad 10 international version on my pc and when i use fill 25% to plot this fill is plotting black.I searched in the forum and i could't find anything please help me it's important.
Thank's

Re: i can't plot

Djordje — Mon, 23 Apr 2007 17:35:32 GMT

Print, don't plot.

The system drivers work quite well.

Make sure that your 500 has enough memory and JetDirect card.

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:11:37 GMT

I also have hp designjet 500 plus and also use print instead plot command
Looks like there is no .gpd -graphisoft plotter driver for this plotter although
I think that this have to be improved , because I think that there is a lot
of archicad users that use this plotter. Nothing left , just to wait

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:58:59 GMT

I trust that you guys using the HP 500 understand that the HPGL card is an extra cost option now and not included with the printer (HP no longer calls them "plotters"). If you have the card you should be able to send generic HPGL to the cue and it will plot right out. If you don't have it printing is the only option.

I think it's time we all accept that plotting is an old and almost dead technology and move on. It has some advantages, like small file sizes and better line weights, but support for it is rapidly disappearing. I recommend devoting your time to figuring out how to get the best looking PDF that you can and use that as your standard for output.

Regarding the 25% fill printing black. If it is the old vector type the spacing of the dots must be coordinated with the pen size (about double unless you want to account for the roundness of the dots for true 25% coverage). If it s the new bitmap version then I can only guess that the background pen is the problem.

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 15:47:15 GMT

Well , I have HPGL -2 card and 32 MB RAM .
In a matter a fact I can plot from archicad but everytime I plot drawings larger than 3mb I lose informations ( some lines , pictures , wals , objects included in drawing , does not plot ) so I dont get plotted drawing as it is draw in archicad . When I print the same drawing everything is OK.

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Tue, 05 Jun 2007 16:47:20 GMT

artes wrote:
Well , I have HPGL -2 card and 32 MB RAM .
In a matter a fact I can plot from archicad but everytime I plot drawings larger than 3mb I lose informations ( some lines , pictures , wals , objects included in drawing , does not plot ) so I dont get plotted drawing as it is draw in archicad . When I print the same drawing everything is OK.

Are you plotting directly from ArchiCAD? You could try plotting to a file and use PlotFlow to send it to the plotter (or just drag and drop if you can see the cue on the network).

Even so, I still think it's better to switch to printing.

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:48:20 GMT

Matthew wrote:
I recommend devoting your time to figuring out how to get the best looking PDF that you can and use that as your standard for output.

So create PDF and them print PDF?

What do you recommend for printing multiple and even collated sets?

I use to plot (HP DesignJet) and then one I got an OCE 9400 printer I would save PLT files and use Print Exec LT. My OCE seems very slow especially if I collate sets. If I run one page multiple times and manually collate the speed of each printout seems to increase. Lately while now using AC10 I have changed to Printing.

Previously (I think back with AC9 or even AC8 w/ PM3) I was having trouble creating PDF's and retaining the Font (MrHand). Forgot if I "fixed" that. Will this be a problem?

Re: i can't plot

Anonymous — Tue, 12 Jun 2007 20:23:04 GMT

Jay wrote:
Matthew wrote:
I recommend devoting your time to figuring out how to get the best looking PDF that you can and use that as your standard for output.
So create PDF and them print PDF?

Or print/publish from ArchiCAD. I was mostly talking about getting quality standards set up for PDF - which is different than HPGL.

What do you recommend for printing multiple and even collated sets?

I use to plot (HP DesignJet) and then one I got an OCE 9400 printer I would save PLT files and use Print Exec LT. My OCE seems very slow especially if I collate sets. If I run one page multiple times and manually collate the speed of each printout seems to increase. Lately while now using AC10 I have changed to Printing.

Collating speed depends on the output device. For collating plots to an Océ TDS400 I used to plot to a spool folder locally and then drag copies (one for each set to be plotted) to the plot cue (on the Oce server). For prints it depends on the drivers and whether the processing is being done in the computer or the printer. I've seen some machines that are dead slow at collating and others that do it just about as fast as straight printing.

Previously (I think back with AC9 or even AC8 w/ PM3) I was having trouble creating PDF's and retaining the Font (MrHand). Forgot if I "fixed" that. Will this be a problem?

Probably not. It may depend on the typeface. I haven seen any font problems in PDF for a long time.