topic Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing in Installation & update

Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:17:41 GMT

Does anyone have a problem with the Text Tool in AC 8.1?
I have opened a drawing (open archived) from 7.3
Tried to edit a text box; selected it and when I klick inside the box to insert the cursor the box disappears!
It is Gone! Blank! Kaput!
I have to klick somewhere else for it to come back.
The only way to edit the text, is to do it blindly, typing 'in the blank' and then klicking outside the box to see if it is there and in the right place. -Not a very good way to place notes....

I am also unable to start a new note and see the type, same thing happens.
Has anyone gone thru this?

Heeelp!

- Back to the drafting board...
Jacek

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Aussie John — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 03:32:40 GMT

some odd things happen with the text blocks. Im not sure if it has been fixed in 8.1

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:30:45 GMT

Aussie wrote:
some odd things happen with the text blocks. Im not sure if it has been fixed in 8.1

8.1 seems to be the problem, unless it is just another peculiarity of my personal setup again..

Hadnot experienced this in the previous version.
So for now: Cleaned up the drives,
Checked the fonts
Repaired privileges (??)
Opened up couple of other files to check -same #%$%
Restart, and hold my thumbs
- will report results, if any...
Jacek

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Conrado Dominguez — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:35:00 GMT

I have ocassionally experience the same. Not as drastic. Try zoom in or out and select the text block again.
This is off course absurd and I dont know why it work.

Conrado

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 04:42:54 GMT

Conrado wrote:
....
This is off course absurd and I dont know why it work.

Conrado

..that makes sense...
seems like I am spending half the time trying to figure out the quirks of the software and the other half workarounds the bugs..
One forgets that it is all in the name of efficiency and time saving, moving with the technology? (!)

I will try that...
I have nothing to loose.
Jacek

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Tue, 25 Nov 2003 05:07:55 GMT

OK.
so I might be acused of posting gratuitous questions/replies, but what the heck! I am feeling good, I am on the roll now...javascript:emoticon(':)')
So I tried a few things, rolled with the punches, got up and tried again....
In a moment of desperation i remembered the old "New and Reset" trick, what the Hell, tried it. .......
...........It worked!
OK, feeeling goodand haughty from the recent success, I tried the erroneous file again and..... It WORKED!

..as I always said, don't panic, have a glass of wine, or two and try something you have not dared to, or forgot how, -again.
Ha!

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:16:10 GMT

Spoke too soon.
The bug came back again!
Did everything as decribed earlier and it did work. I did some snooping and I have found out why:
The "New and Reset" solves the problem because it resets the preference to "Optimize 2D Redraw for Open GL" to "OFF"
With the Redraw optimized to "ON" the problem with the text tool returns. Now I do have what at some point was considered a high speed GL card -see signature below, so I don't know why is the problem surfacing now?

Another thing; one can not access the preferences with the Text tool selected in the toolbar, I don't remember that in 8.0 -perhaps it was there and I just did not pay attention.

>In a moment of desperation i remembered the old "New and Reset" trick, what the Hell, tried it. .......
...........It worked!<

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Anonymous — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 11:18:21 GMT

I haven't found the OpenGL for 2D redraw to be much help (even with high end video cards) and it definitely seems to be a bit troublesome. I recommend leaving it off.

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Djordje — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 12:11:16 GMT

Jacek wrote:
The "New and Reset" solves the problem because it resets the preference to "Optimize 2D Redraw for Open GL" to "OFF"

... which is where I would leave it.

Use OpenGL in 3D window, in 2D I have not seen any advantage of using it.

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

__archiben — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:43:58 GMT

Djordje wrote:
in 2D I have not seen any advantage of using it.

it certainly makes a difference to a couple of our bigger jobs in the speed of navigating around. i tend to keep it on, and advise the others here to do the same.

as you say matthew, it can be a little troublesome, (screen white-outs, selection dots disappearing . . .), but i have learnt to ignore them as the benefits for me outweigh navigating without it.

~/archiben

Re: Text Tool -Problems Editing

Jacek — Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:21:49 GMT

Thank you all for chiming in.
I have left it off and the problems seemed to have gone away -for now, I'm sure....
On the other hand, does anyone know what is the purpose/intent of the 2D acceleration selection if almost none are using it or see improvement in speed -except Ben perhaps.

Is it a good intent, not quite delivering?
Jacek