topic Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not in Installation & update

Mouse wheel zooming-not

Stephen Dolbee — Wed, 13 Oct 2004 20:49:52 GMT

In AC8 my mouse wheel zoomed in and out as it should. In AC9 it just scrolls. How can I fix this?

Thanks,
Steve

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Wed, 13 Oct 2004 21:26:36 GMT

I have never heard of any issues on a PC with the mouse software not working properly, but on the Mac when you load the software thing go haywire and nothing seems to work right. Very similar to what you're describing. If you do have mouse software loaded you may want to disable it's features for ArchiCAD.

HTH

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Stephen Dolbee — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 02:10:50 GMT

Pushing it allows me to pan, but turning it just scrolls. Anyone? I'm starting my first job in 9 tomorrow.

Thanks,
Steve

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Erika Epstein — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 02:42:42 GMT

In 9 there is a new button to the left of the magnifier button that allows you to zoom in or out with the scroll button.

It has an empty lens with a ± to the right of it.

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Eduardo Rolon — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:30:06 GMT

check your mouse settings under control panel, verify that scroll wheel is not assigned to any "weird" action also if the mouse is logitech check the box for "MSWord compatibility".

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Erika Epstein — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 03:49:56 GMT

mine's intellimouse 4 button plus scroll, used it for years

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Richard Morrison — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 04:34:10 GMT

Try holding down the CTRL key as you scroll.

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Erika Epstein — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 05:05:17 GMT

Richard wrote:
Try holding down the CTRL key as you scroll.

Oooooh, yuo;'re good!

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 10:31:45 GMT

Holding Ctrl is the answer - it was the same in AC8, AC 8.1 and in AutoCAD, MAX and CorelDraw.

I think it is a Windows problem that will never be fixed since it occurs in Win98, Win 2000 and (it seems) XP.

I could say some nise things to Bill Gates but they will be sensored...

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 12:01:33 GMT

kliment wrote:
Holding Ctrl is the answer - it was the same in AC8, AC 8.1 and in AutoCAD, MAX and CorelDraw.

I think it is a Windows problem that will never be fixed since it occurs in Win98, Win 2000 and (it seems) XP.

It is possible that you have installed some brand of "Mouse Software". Intellimouse for example requires that one go into the control panel and specify that softwares like ArchiCAD, AutoCAD, Max, etc. can override or disable normal mouse behavior and control it themselves.

Usually these "exceptions" are set up in Advanced settings of the mouse software.

Unless you are using something other than a 2 button mouse with a scroll wheel, I usually recommend that users NOT install any software that came with the mouse and the mouse will behave correctly in ArchiCAD.

Holding down the Control key is great if it works for you but it's an extra step you shouldn't need to use if you mouse is properly configured.

Checking out the manual might be a good idea

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Stephen Dolbee — Thu, 14 Oct 2004 13:23:37 GMT

woodster wrote:
Intellimouse for example requires that one go into the control panel and specify that softwares like ArchiCAD, AutoCAD, Max, etc. can override or disable normal mouse behavior and control it themselves.

Usually these "exceptions" are set up in Advanced settings of the mouse software.

Thank you all for your responses. Holding the control key down worked, but Woodster had the key to my problem. This might help others as well. I opened the Microsoft mouse software and clicked on the "wheel" tab. Under "wheel troubleshooter", click the advanced button. Once there, I was able to add Archicad 9 to the existing list. I already had Archicad 8.1 on the list, which explains why the wheel worked in 8, but not 9. This fixed the problem.

Thanks again,
Steve

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 12:39:18 GMT

I use 3-button wheel Logitech mouse at home and a 5-button wheel one at the office. I usually map most ot the buttons with other commands (like Del for example), so I have no choise but to use the supplied Mouse Software.

Not that I like to hold the Ctrl button

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:11:46 GMT

kliment wrote:
I use 3-button wheel Logitech mouse at home and a 5-button wheel one at the office. I usually map most ot the buttons with other commands (like Del for example), so I have no choise but to use the supplied Mouse Software.

I may be wrong on this one but I believe that if you have the latest MouseWare 9.76 you can set the wheel to "unassigned" and the wheel will function as it should in ArchiCAD (and appropriately in other programs like Word and Excel as well)

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/downloads/categories/US/EN,CRID=1792

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Stephen Dolbee — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 14:41:28 GMT

kliment wrote:
I use 3-button wheel Logitech mouse at home and a 5-button wheel one at the office. I usually map most ot the buttons with other commands

I also use a 5 button mouse. Can the extra buttons be mapped for certain Archicad commands? If so, how?

Thanks,
Steve

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Fri, 15 Oct 2004 16:31:07 GMT

Stephen
If yor using a MS Intellipoint trackball or other.....
Pull up the MS Mouse Properties window and under the wheel tab- click troubleshooter. It will wlak you thru the fix.
It happens to me also.

Oh yeah.......also ,you gotta ditch the latest MS Intellimouse drivers and find the 4.10.851 driver. Its the older much better version. This is the one where you can program your buttons.

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Mon, 18 Oct 2004 07:43:31 GMT

In Logitech MouseWare wheel/middle button always remains assigned as "Middle button", otherwise it cannot pan. Problems with zooming remain, though.

I do not use the latest MouseWare version because it didn'n work well with Win2000.

You can map mouse buttons only with certain buttons, specified in a predefined list by MouseWare. It's a pity you cannot map complex commands like Ctrl=... A way around it is to map some functions in AC to F-buttons and then use them in MouseWare - it supports all F-s.

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Karl Ottenstein — Sun, 25 Sep 2005 19:57:54 GMT

kliment wrote:
In Logitech MouseWare wheel/middle button always remains assigned as "Middle button", otherwise it cannot pan. Problems with zooming remain, though.

I wore out the left-button switch in my mouse (!), so just upgraded to a Logitech MX1000 laser mouse ($34 on sale).

I appreciate the comments in this old thread, as I wouldn't have guessed that pressing ctrl while rolling the wheel would zoom in the normal-mouse ArchiCAD way. (Without ctrl, the Logitech software sends scrolling commands to AC, and so it zooms and scrolls off the screen at the same time!) Remapping the middle button to "middle button" also took care of pan.

Uninstalling the Logitech SetPoint software made the mouse behave like a normal mouse (as far as wheel roll and button), but then I lost the ability to have mouse acceleration and horizontal scroll. Without acceleration, it takes too much wrist motion to get the cursor from far left to far right of the virtual two-monitor screen.

So, like you, I'll put up with having to press Ctrl-Wheel to zoom in AC. In the process, I learned that ctrl-wheel zooms font size in Internet Explorer.

Thanks,
Karl

Re: Mouse wheel zooming-not

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:39:41 GMT

Recently bought Logitech Cordless Click Plus mouse, 5+1 buttons, and also side scrolling.

Now it is possible to map complex commands to the buttons!

And now you cannot map left button either! A really silly decision!

Also the mouse has grown in size. Smaller mice were better.