topic Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad? in Installation & update

Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

archislave — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 19:14:13 GMT

Does anyone know whether the might mouse can be programmed to pan and zoom like a typical wheel mouse when used in Archicad? I think the MM scroll ball is meant for up/down and side to side scrolling in a document.

In Archicad typical wheel scrolling becomes zoom in and out. Same in sketchup and autocad. So .... will rolling the MM ball do the sam? I wonder since the ball is omnidirectional and not constrained to up and down - it might confuse Archicad etc...

Would pressing down the MM ball pan as it does when pressing a wheel?

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

ci-JoshOs — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:38:58 GMT

Hi.
You can make the Mighty mouse panning zooming etc work by deleting this file:

Macintosh HD:System:Library:Extensions:AppleHIDMouse.kext

Then reboot, and the wheel will work in Archicad the same as any other wheel would.

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

archislave — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:47:41 GMT

That sounds great but can you give more detail about behaviors?

What happens if you roll the ball side to side or diagonally since this is not possible with a wheel mouse - only up and down.

Does pressing the ball while moving the mouse side to side envoke panning?

How does this affect the useful omni-directional scrolling in other apps?

Thanks for the input?

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

ci-JoshOs — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:53:25 GMT

My mac is currently running XP, so i will have to check later, but as far as i remember:
-clicking the ball down while moving the mouse pans the view
-scrolling the ball forward or backward zooms in and out
-scrolling the ball left and right pans to the left or right

That said, i have ditched my mighty mouse in favour of a good old intellimouse, because i found the right-click to be very hit-and-miss. i usually had to try it at least twice before it did a right click instead of a left.

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:09:12 GMT

archislave wrote:
Does anyone know whether the might mouse can be programmed to pan and zoom like a typical wheel mouse when used in Archicad? I think the MM scroll ball is meant for up/down and side to side scrolling in a document.

In Archicad typical wheel scrolling becomes zoom in and out. Same in sketchup and autocad. So .... will rolling the MM ball do the sam? I wonder since the ball is omnidirectional and not constrained to up and down - it might confuse Archicad etc...

Would pressing down the MM ball pan as it does when pressing a wheel?

it all works just the way you want it . . .

you have to set the buttons up for 'primary button', 'secondary button', 'button 3', but after that all will be the same as a three button scroll-wheel mouse.

the left<>right scrolling has no effect in archicad: the ball only zooms. any movement toward the front of the mouse (between 0º and 180º) results in a zoom in and any backwards (180º to 360º) is a zoom out . . .

when i use a mighty-mouse - which isn't all that often - i actually disable the the left<>right functionality since i've always held down shift and scrolled to do that anyway. can't teach an old dog . . . and all that!

HTH
~/archiben

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:11:15 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
Hi.
You can make the Mighty mouse panning zooming etc work by deleting this file:

Macintosh HD:System:Library:Extensions:AppleHIDMouse.kext

Then reboot, and the wheel will work in Archicad the same as any other wheel would.

archislave wrote:
How does this affect the useful omni-directional scrolling in other apps?

it stuffs it up.

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:14:13 GMT

henrypootel wrote:
-scrolling the ball left and right pans to the left or right

no it doesn't - see my response above... any movement of the mouse between the 0º and 180º (i.e. forwards in any direction) results in a zoom-in and 180º to 360º (backwards) is a zoom-out . . .

no messing with driver files required. it does what you want it to . . .

but: one thing i did forget: you have to be on the latest patch of archiCAD 9 or archicad 10. any earlier version of archicad 9 isn't compatible with the mighty-mouse.

~/archiben

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

archislave — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:40:47 GMT

Now I'm really confused ...

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

__archiben — Tue, 25 Jul 2006 22:51:28 GMT

archislave wrote:
Now I'm really confused ...

as long as you're on the latest patch of archicad 9 or using archicad 10 it works the way you want it to.

regarding the zooming and panning: you press the middle button (the mighty-mouse's 'nipple') to pan around the window. you scroll the wheel - the 'nipple' - to zoom in or out.

sideways scrolling has no effect in archicad: it zooms because it has to (if the nipple is being used to zoom in one direction it cannot be used to scroll in another, right?!). sideways scrolling works in all other applications that also use vertical scrolling (webpages/spreadsheets/etc.)

the settings are as shown below (horizontal scrolling re-enabled)...

get one and try it. it's not bad. there are better mice out there (i personally hate wires so use a bluetooth one). but the MM does no less than any other mouse in archicad . . .

~/archiben

Re: Apple Might Mouse w/ Archicad?

Andy Thomson — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 21:23:58 GMT

A little late for this reply, but I installed USB overdrive (shareware) the day I got my mighty mouse, programmed right click as ctrl click and the ball to be middle button, and have been panning, zooming, etc. without incident since...