topic Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem in Installation & update

Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:22:05 GMT

Greetings folks, I have really big problem with cyrillic characters in archicad. Law in my country tells that whole documentation for projects has to be in cyrillic format... I've tried those advices in some of earlier posts (eg. one with changing code to 204 in registry, and one with editing config file in add-on folder) but nothing helps. When I change my keyboard in language bar to cyrillic (either serbian or bosnian) and try to type a name of layer or section name in cyrillic - only thing I get is bunch of "?????????". Is it possible at all solve this? HELP!

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Pozdrav ljudi, stvarno imam problem sa prikazom cirilicnih slova u archicad-u... (Koristim 11-ku na PC platormi)

Da li je uopste moguce da se imena layer-a, nazivi presjeka i slicne stvari imenuju cirilicom a da pri tome ne dobijem gomilu upitnika?
Ovo mi je stvarno ozbiljan problem jer se sva dokumentacija koju radim u archicad-u mora predati na cirilici. Takav zakon, sta li vec...

Pokusao sam i neke od onih savjeta sa ovog foruma, i stvarno sam vjerovao da ce onaj sa izmjenom koda u registry-ju na 204 (rusko podrucje) pomoci, ali nista... Hiljadu kombinacija sa regional settings-ima i opet nista...

Pomagajte! :+(

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:30:42 GMT

Have you seen this page in the Wiki?

http://www.archicadwiki.com/Bugs/Cyrillic_font_problems?highlight=%28cyrillic%29

It sounds like you may have followed the steps already.

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:19:08 GMT

Yes, I followed those steps and still nothing... Is it possible that there is no support for serbian character set? I've even done same steps that are described in archiwiki (link posted above) and nothing happened! Just bunch of "???????????????????"

I hate "?"!

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Djordje — Sat, 26 Apr 2008 16:43:49 GMT

Well, whether the interface is in Serbian Cyrillic has nothing to do with the output. As your problem is the output, then set the regional settings to Serbian Cyrillic and all should be well ...

Try conversion table 29 and character set 238

Also, check with hiCAD: www.hicad.co.yu

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Da ti su ti meniji i imena lejera na cirilici nema veze; ako dokumentacija mora da bude na cirilici, postavi lepo regional settings na srpsku cirilicu i sve bi trebalo da bude u redu.

Probaj konverzionu tabelu 29 i set karaktera 238

Proveri sa hiCADom: www.hicad.co.yu

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:59:14 GMT

Nothing!

Either am I stupid or something like that...

Ok, steps I followed:

1. Control panel -> Regional settings

2. settings as in attached gifs,

3. Settings in file C:\Program Files\Graphisoft\ArchiCAD 11\Add-Ons\XReadCfg.txt:
DEFMACTOWINCONVTABLE = 29 (either 7)

4. HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Graphisoft\ArchiCAD\ArchiCAD 11.0.0 INT R1\Font Description -> font script code = 238 (either 204)

Combination with cyrillic keyboard as default text input or english - both don't work.

I've even tried with re installing whole archicad.

My version of archicad is 11, and "1086 INT FULL" as is displayed in welcome screen...

Is it possible that I need to change something in that config file in add-on folder? (XReadCfg.txt)

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Djordje — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 16:54:43 GMT

leziljebovic wrote:
Nothing!

Either am I stupid or something like that.

Does not sound like it ... 😉

Now ... is your problem the OUTPUT or the layers etc?

If the requirement is the output, and that definitely works, just live with the layers etc ... the output is what you get paid for, right?

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 06:29:06 GMT

Well, the output looks like this: "??????????????????????" for each field that I enter. I've tried to print almost every combination of charsets and registry values.

I used layout with stamp form in which archicad should insert values from project info (project name, client, city, street...) and that is in all combinations filled with ????'s!!

Even if I write in latin some letters appear to be transformed into others, meaning that I have only two latin characters available (out of 5)

Also, I've tried reinstalling archicad, if that helps at all... Nothing.

Can anyone write steps I have take in order to get that characters in archicad...????

Only cyrillic letters I can see in whole archicad is in ONE window, image attached, and it is about date name (it is spelled correctly in fields "created" and "modified")...

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:58:12 GMT

Well..
Windows XP SP2?
ArchiCAD is not a UniCode software fully, Only text tool work properly.
Follow instruction as in wiki, you might already done that. You should be able to see cyrillics.
This does not mean that you actually can write cyrillic text (for example zones and object fields).
What is missing in that wiki (xp part) article is one tiny setting in advanced tab, see image.
Depending your regional default settings this can totally fuck your reading experience.
In my case all non ascii chars are twisted to cyrillics and some other non unicode sw gets fully cyrillics.

I truly hope that kind people in GS could really make a improvement and make software usable.

Copy paste with different codepages is quite odd way to work.
Some might say even frustrating and time consuming.

Use excel macro or program called cyrcon to paste in cyrillic texts with proper codepage.

And if there is better way to do it, I would like to know...

Petri

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:28:16 GMT

Excel macro attached as a text document.
Create macro using that.

Type bunch of cyrillics texts in the cells.
SAVE excel sheet.
Select cells and run macro.

Everything in selected cells change unreadable characters.
Copy and paste to the fields in Archicad.

Do not save excel with unreadable chars.

Definitely true WORKAROUND...

Petri

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Djordje — Sat, 03 May 2008 12:18:23 GMT

No attachment?

Probably too big?

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Sat, 03 May 2008 22:57:46 GMT

Not too big, just wrong file extension.

I was in impression that these codepage issues are part of computing history, but no. [senroded content could be placed here, use creativity]
Frustrating issue anyway.

I really need a decent, proper solution for this cyrillic issue for the 11 INT.

Petri

Macro pasted below, I hope it get through now.

--macro--
Sub encode()

For Each cell In Selection
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1081), "é", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1094), "ö", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1091), "ó", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1082), "ê", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1077), "å", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1085), "í", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1075), "ã", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1096), "ø", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1097), "ù", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1079), "ç", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1093), "õ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1098), "ú", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1092), "ô", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1099), "û", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1074), "â", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1072), "à", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1087), "ï", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1088), "ð", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1086), "î", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1083), "ë", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1076), "ä", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1078), "æ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1101), "ý", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1103), "ÿ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1095), "÷", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1089), "ñ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1084), "ì", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1080), "è", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1090), "ò", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1100), "ü", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1073), "á", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1102), "þ", vbTextCompare)

cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1049), "É", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1062), "Ö", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1059), "Ó", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1050), "Ê", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1045), "Å", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1053), "Í", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1043), "Ã", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1064), "Ø", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1065), "Ù", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1047), "Ç", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1061), "Õ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1066), "Ú", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1060), "Ô", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1067), "Û", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1042), "Â", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1040), "À", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1055), "Ï", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1056), "Ð", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1054), "Î", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1051), "Ë", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1044), "Ä", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1046), "Æ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1069), "Ý", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1071), "ß", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1063), "×", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1057), "Ñ", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1052), "Ì", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1048), "È", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1058), "Ò", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1068), "Ü", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1041), "Á", vbTextCompare)
cell.Value = Replace(cell.Value, ChrW$(1070), "Þ", vbTextCompare)
Next cell
End Sub
--macro ends--

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Rob — Sun, 04 May 2008 02:17:02 GMT

Oi Petri,
since when Suomi switched to cyrillic?

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Sun, 04 May 2008 15:51:39 GMT

Terve Rob!

Suomi is newer going to use cyrillics.

My pain comes from fact that we have a lot of projects from international companies on areas where natives use cyrillics. Russia...

Petri

and for the rest of the world:
Terve=G'day, Hi or something like that
Suomi=Finland

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Wed, 20 Nov 2013 15:11:51 GMT

I still can't change the way ArchiCAD displays Cyrillic fonts... I tried the link below and nothing! I use Win 7 Pro and OS X Mavericks and the link is for older versions. 😕
http://www.archicadwiki.com/Bugs/CyrillicFontProblems

Help!

Re: Please, cyrillic language character problem

Anonymous — Thu, 17 Sep 2015 19:37:42 GMT

Hi,
as I can see this problem is not resolved, so I will continue with my trouble.
So, I'm using ArchiCad 19. Cyrillic works fine, I also have my project notes in Cyrillic. At some point, however, I tried to save them as pdf, or copy them in another word document to save them for later, but every time I get unreadable characters. At some point I changed the setting from Cyrillic to central European just to see if copying will work this time, saved and closed the pln. Next time I opened it, everything was fine, except my project notes were all "?????????????????". I immediately changed the text settings from central European to Cyrillic, and did everything described here:
http://helpcenter.graphisoft.com/troubleshooting/documenting/fontscharacters-troubleshooting-guide/
However problem still persists in projects notes. Note that everywhere else (stories, etc.) the Cyrillic fonts are fine.

Please help, I need those notes back