topic Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors in Modeling

AC 8.1 & windows/doors

TDabney — Thu, 25 May 2023 16:06:07 GMT

Hi -

I just received my copy of 8.1 and am having some issues w/windows and doors. I'm working in a project started in 8.0v3 that has some windows and doors w/glass and divided lites. No matter what door style I choose (ie. glass, raised panel etc..) all that shows in 3D is a slab door. I'm having similar issues w/the windows. Is there a new checkbox somewhere that I'm missing? I've tried loading just the 8.0 lib., just the 8.1 lib., and both libraries - and still no joy. BTW here's a warning (something I should have thought about) 8.1 is not directly backward compatable w/8.0. You have to "save as 8.0 project". I did this and the doors and windows did work again though. (whew). Has anyone else had any issues similar to these?

Tom

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 02:27:51 GMT

I had that same issue with the 8.1 doors. I believe that the library for 8.1 still has issues and hopefully a patch is in the works. Care to comment Graphisoft?

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Karl Ottenstein — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 04:35:06 GMT

I tested the windows and doors a little bit in 8.1 and didn't see this. Could you guys give an example - with a specific library part name?

Will take a look.

Karl

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Djordje — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 12:25:18 GMT

Karl wrote:
I tested the windows and doors a little bit in 8.1 and didn't see this. Could you guys give an example - with a specific library part name?

... and screen shot ...

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

TDabney — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:11:05 GMT

Here's a screen shot of what I'm talking about. The doors on the large gable end wall as well as to the left should be glass w/lites. The door settings (cmd + t) are correct but it doesn't show in 3D for some reason. The parts are D1 81 and D2 81 and/or D1 80 and D2 80.

Tom

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Anonymous — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 17:31:16 GMT

TDabney wrote:
Hi -

I just received my copy of 8.1 and am having some issues w/windows and doors. I'm working in a project started in 8.0v3...

Tom

FYI - This is a quote from the "read me first" that came with the upgrade.

Warning!
We strongly recommend that you create Archives (.pla) of each project you worked on with older ArchiCAD versions.
Move a project onto ArchiCAD 8.1 only if you have archived it with the previous version. Keep copies of these archives in a safe place.

Libraries
Object libraries shipped with or created in ArchiCAD 8.1 will not work with ArchiCAD 7.0 or earlier and will be partly compatible with ArchiCAD 8.
New library parts are equipped with abilities older ArchiCAD versions cannot interpret. On the other hand, older libraries work fine with ArchiCAD 8.1 (unless they include GDL programming errors), but obviously they will lack the smart new features of the new library parts.
Again, before fully moving to ArchiCAD 8.1, make a copy of any libraries you have used so far. A library part opened and modified with ArchiCAD 8.1 will not be usable with the ArchiCAD versions previous to 8 and will be partly compatible with ArchiCAD 8 (library parts using new features implemented in 8.1 will not be compatible).
In ArchiCAD 8.1 you can load an Archive (.pla) file as a library. In this case the program will load this library file much faster than a traditional library folder without extracting the library parts stored in it to your hard disk. In this case, the library structure will reflect the original folder structure of the Archive when it was saved.

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

TDabney — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:02:03 GMT

Richard wrote:
FYI - This is a quote from the "read me first" that came with the upgrade.

I suspected this was some sort of 8.0/8.1 conflict but it seems to run a little deeper. I've been trying different things like: deleting and replacing parts that aren't displaying porperly, deleting entire walls and starting from scratch replacing the windows and doors w/just 8.1 parts etc... I've had mixed results still. One wall, I totally replaced and popped in a new door - worked fine - until I did a solid element op. on it to trim to a roof above which made the door go to a solid slab. So I un-did the solid element op. and did just a trim to roof - which worked fine. At the moment things seem inconsistent - I'm sure there's a rhyme to the reason, but I don't have the time to keep messing w/all the different combos to figure it out.

Tom

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

aahatimo — Tue, 18 Nov 2003 18:23:06 GMT

Richard wrote:
TDabney wrote:
Hi -

I just received my copy of 8.1 and am having some issues w/windows and doors. I'm working in a project started in 8.0v3...

Tom
Warning!
Libraries
Object libraries shipped with or created in ArchiCAD 8.1 will not work with ArchiCAD 7.0 or earlier and will be partly compatible with ArchiCAD 8.

what does "partly" compatable mean? gs, any additional info regarding this vague readme note?
tia

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 16:45:51 GMT

Objects created in 8.1 will work also in ArchiCAD 8, unless you use GDL commands that are new in 8.1. (Please refer to the “GDL enhancements” section of “Welcome to ArchiCAD 8.1” PDF regarding this topic). The ‘partly compatible’ expression refers to this limitation.

Tom, the issue with the door seems to be a bug, so please send your file to your local TechSupport.

More to library handling in ArchiACD 8 and 8.1: please read article by Ransom Ratcliff on ArchiGuide:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/archiguide/guid.html

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

aahatimo — Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:08:37 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
More to library handling in ArchiACD 8 and 8.1: please read article by Ransom Ratcliff on ArchiGuide:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/archicad/archiguide/guid.html

gergely,
thanks for the response!
i have reviewed the archiguide link, and still am a bit confused. (what else is new... ) which of the 2 ways of dealing w/ the example situations; ac8.03 projects into 8.1 is recommended? is there a reason not to just load the 8.1 library if you have just used basic 8.03 parts?

Re: AC 8.1 & windows/doors

Greg Kmethy — Thu, 27 Nov 2003 16:45:43 GMT

Hi,

ArchiCAD 8.1 library is only slightly modified compared to 8. Therefore, you can continue ArchiCAD 8 files in 8.1 by just loading the ArchiCAD 8.1 library.

Feature developement and bugfixing in upcoming major releases may require more significant modifications in objects, therefore we cannot guarantee that the new objects will behave exactly the same as in previous versions.

Therefore, we always recommend to keep a backup PLA file saved in the original version, so you can go back to it anytime if you might need it.