topic Re: trace and reference - alignment? in Modeling

trace and reference - alignment?

cremsberg — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:33:51 GMT

Is there some trick to get sections to align as one would expect using Trace & Reference default position? By the way, the "default position" also seems to change erratically.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Karl Ottenstein — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 18:54:34 GMT

The cuts are so different, I cannot tell for sure - but is it possible the one section is 'looking' in one direction and the other in the opposite, so that the reference needs to be mirrored anyway to be aligned? And are the ends of the section cut lines in the same relative positions?

Karl

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

cremsberg — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:10:07 GMT

Both section cuts are looking in the same direction and the ends of the section lines are aligned with each other in plan. Both section cut lines are the same length. Has anyone seen problem this before?

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Laura Yanoviak — Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:35:38 GMT

cremsberg wrote:
By the way, the "default position" also seems to change erratically.

I've noticed this problem when referencing external plans, but have not had any problems (yet) with S/E references.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Greg Kmethy — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 09:25:24 GMT

Two views can be automatically aligned in both X and Y direction only if one is a direct "derivative" of the other. E.g. a floor plan, and a section placed on that floor plan. Or a section, and a detail placed on that section. Two sections do not have that relationship, so ArchiCAD can not align them. They will be vertically aligned, and placed next to each other. You can use the "drag reference" command to manually align them in X direction.

Greg

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

cremsberg — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 12:31:14 GMT

It seems like since every view has at least 2 coordinate dimensions, that ArchiCAD should know how to correctly align them along shared coordinates, especially when section/elevations are parallel. Isn't this a reasonable assumption? Greg, I hear you say this is not currently possible, but can it be a wish for future versions? In the meantime, I will try manually aligning them using a reference line or point.

What is currently determining how ghosted section/elevations default-align with each other? It seems so random.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 14:34:33 GMT

I always supposed that if one has two Sections and the Section Lines of these two Sections are parallel with each other and they are both looking in the same direction then they should be able to align because in that case the position of the building is exactly the same relative to the Project Origin.
I guess that would be an added intelligence on the part of the program to recognize such cases.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Erika Epstein — Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:45:33 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
I always supposed that if one has two Sections and the Section Lines of these two Sections are parallel with each other and they are both looking in the same direction then they should be able to align because in that case the position of the building is exactly the same relative to the Project Origin.
I guess that would be an added intelligence on the part of the program to recognize such cases.

Claire, time for this to be a wish.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Stress Co_ — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 03:30:44 GMT

Link to Claire's WISH

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Link — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:12:23 GMT

Stress wrote:
Link to Claire's WISH

----.---Link to Marc: I voted!

Cheers,
Link.

Re: trace and reference - alignment?

Stress Co_ — Thu, 12 Mar 2009 04:36:05 GMT

Link wrote:
Link to Marc: I voted!

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