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    <title>topic Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14 in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189900#M102941</link>
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I hope it was not sent on a slow boat to China first.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:32:05 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Steve Jepson</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-09-15T16:32:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189899#M102940</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;R&gt;GS has shipped AC13:&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:31:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Laszlo Nagy</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-15T12:31:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189900#M102941</link>
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I hope it was not sent on a slow boat to China first.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:32:05 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Steve Jepson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-15T16:32:05Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189901#M102942</link>
      <description>has the slow boat to china arrived in anyones port...yet?</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:25:24 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189901#M102942</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T05:25:24Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189902#M102943</link>
      <description>Not here yet.... &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cry.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 06:24:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189902#M102943</guid>
      <dc:creator>andrewzarb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T06:24:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189903#M102944</link>
      <description>This just arrived, in my email.&lt;BR /&gt;
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"Archicad13 will start shipping to our Select Agreement members from mid-October."&lt;BR /&gt;
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straight from the horses mouth.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:22:56 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189903#M102944</guid>
      <dc:creator>andrewzarb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T07:22:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189904#M102945</link>
      <description>Ditto here Mid October for Aus.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Not to mention a wondeful series of Webinars to boot.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 07:33:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189904#M102945</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T07:33:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189905#M102946</link>
      <description>It never 'shipped' at all in England for me. I was just sent a download link to the all the software files yesterday.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I even have to ask specially if I actually want a physical manual!&lt;BR /&gt;
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Of course, the money saved by not producing packaging, DVDs, manuals and postage have been passed directly to the customer.......&lt;BR /&gt;
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......not! &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_rolleyes.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_lol.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:34:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189905#M102946</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T12:34:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189906#M102947</link>
      <description>Lucky you Peter.&lt;BR /&gt;
I keep asking my agent for a link to download the software but nothing yet.&lt;BR /&gt;
Keeping my fingers crossed that I'll see the UPS man before the month is over.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:55:06 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189906#M102947</guid>
      <dc:creator>sedley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T12:55:06Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189907#M102948</link>
      <description>....and before anyone asks, I can't share the link!! It's on a members-only page on my resellers website. &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 12:59:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T12:59:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189908#M102949</link>
      <description>So Peter can be the first to tell us what it is really like!</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:45:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189908#M102949</guid>
      <dc:creator>KeesW</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T23:45:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189909#M102950</link>
      <description>Ahm....&lt;BR /&gt;

&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;ArchiCAD 13 Starts Shipping Today&lt;BR /&gt;
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Budapest, &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;September 14&lt;/FONT&gt;, 2009 – GRAPHISOFT announced &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;today&lt;/FONT&gt; that ArchiCAD® 13, the next version of its award-winning Virtual Building™ modeling solution, has started to ship on both Windows® and Macintosh® platforms today.&lt;BR /&gt;
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The International, German, US, Australian, New Zealand, French, Italian, Austrian, Hungarian, Finnish and Russian versions of ArchiCAD 13 are &lt;FONT color="#ff0000"&gt;shipping this week&lt;/FONT&gt;.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Cough, cough...&lt;BR /&gt;
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Why not post the links to these versions?  I only open the boxes sent to us when I need to get the disc out.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 23:48:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>andrewzarb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-24T23:48:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189910#M102951</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;KeesW wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;So Peter can be the first to tell us what it is really like!&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

I've only played with it for a day or so, but I can give you my initial thoughts and reactions!&lt;BR /&gt;
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Positives, in no particular order -&lt;BR /&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;- The improved openGL 3d window display is really nice. It feels smoother to navigate, and looks clearer and much more professional.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- There's a new pivot door and folding sliding Nanawall type door, which are great to see.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- The annotate in schedule feature is great! I'll look forward to experimenting further with this.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- The predefined steelwork custom profile feature is pretty cool. With a bit more thought, it could have been even better though. Ideally they should have given the option of pre-selecting the contour pen and edge material of the profiles before you import them. They should have also done one with timber profiles too, with a choice of standard 'metric' and 2x timbers, and also standard glulam beam sizes.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- The improved edge angle and material control for slabs and roofs is a useful addition. Unfortunately only the top surface is represented on plan as before.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- The 'soft insulation' feature seems to work really well. It basically forces the height of one 'unit' of the symbolic fill to fit the skin. It can actually be used with any symbolic fill so there's potential for various uses.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;
Negatives so far -&lt;BR /&gt;

&lt;UL&gt;&lt;LI&gt;- I don't have a 64bit operating system so I can't test the 64bittyness.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- I don't like the way the new GDL based Model View Options cannot be over-ridden for individual doors/windows.&lt;BR /&gt;
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- The Int Elevs don't seem to work any better for odd shaped volumes.&lt;/LI&gt;&lt;/UL&gt;

I can't comment on TeamWork2 as I haven't tried it yet!&lt;BR /&gt;
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Conclusion - it's a decent upgrade and worth doing, especially if you work on big jobs with multiple people, but the same ol' problems that should be easy to fix are still there. I know they have been focusing on TW2 and 64bit for the past couple of years, but I would love to see the next release focus on fully realising the potential of the existing tools. Complex profiles and composites, zones and material application and material organisation immediately spring to mind.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:38:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T01:38:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189911#M102952</link>
      <description>Graphisoft US has received it's shipment and started shipping yesterday.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 04:01:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189911#M102952</guid>
      <dc:creator>Steve Jepson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T04:01:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189912#M102953</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Peter wrote:&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
The predefined steelwork custom profile feature is pretty cool. With a bit more thought, it could have been even better though.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
I like the idea behind! One tool with regional preselection... GS may expand this thinking in the future, for example in library objects (regional specialities, use of language, ...). &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_cool.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
 
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Peter wrote:&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
The improved edge angle and material control for slabs and roofs is a useful addition.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Yes and no. Slab edge with 'complete freedom' ?! : input of a negative value is not possible and that's exactly what I need  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:50:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T09:50:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189913#M102954</link>
      <description>oooops, maybe better to start a new topic with pro's and con's?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 09:52:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189913#M102954</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T09:52:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189914#M102955</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Steve wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Graphisoft US has received it's shipment and started shipping yesterday.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

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So when they said they start shipping they meant to the A/C localize HQ.&lt;BR /&gt;
Another weekend without 13, I gone to the beach.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 12:50:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sedley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T12:50:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/ArchiCAD-13-shipped-on-September-14/m-p/189915#M102956</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Joeri wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Peter wrote:&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
The improved edge angle and material control for slabs and roofs is a useful addition.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Yes and no. Slab edge with 'complete freedom' ?! : input of a negative value is not possible and that's exactly what I need  &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_confused.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Joeri:&lt;BR /&gt;
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Could you explain further? The normal setting for the slab edge is 90˚ (vertical). Any setting between 1˚ - 89˚ cuts the edge back under the slab, any setting between 91˚ - 170˚ moves the cut out the opposite direction from the top of the slab. What sort of result do you expect with a negative number?&lt;BR /&gt;
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David&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/9355iF0FF019B5A1DC1A9/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" border="0" alt="Slab-edge.gif" title="Slab-edge.gif" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:29:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>David Maudlin</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T13:29:29Z</dc:date>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;sedley wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Steve wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Graphisoft US has received it's shipment and started shipping yesterday.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

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So when they said they start shipping they meant to the A/C localize HQ.&lt;BR /&gt;
Another weekend without 13, I gone to the beach.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Whoa...Can i trade my AC13 for a couple of days at a warm beach?....lucky you!...&lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 13:49:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Mats_Knutsson</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T13:49:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: ArchiCAD 13 shipped on September 14</title>
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      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Mats_Knutsson wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;sedley wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;Steve wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;Graphisoft US has received it's shipment and started shipping yesterday.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
So when they said they start shipping they meant to the A/C localize HQ.&lt;BR /&gt;
Another weekend without 13, I gone to the beach.&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

Whoa...Can i trade my AC13 for a couple of days at a warm beach?....lucky you!...&lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;

&lt;BR /&gt;
One man's paradise is another's hell.&lt;BR /&gt;
It's sunny here in the BVI. We pray for the rains to come to fill up the cistern so we don't have to give the extra money to to water companies.&lt;BR /&gt;
If you can catch the STARSHIP ENTERPRISE you can bring 13 when you come. LOL.... You are the lucky one.&lt;BR /&gt;
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CAN'T SOMEONE MAKE A DISC IMAGE (mac US version, I'll settle for INT version) PUT IT ON THEIR FTP SITE AND SEND ME THE LINK............</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:27:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sedley</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T15:27:52Z</dc:date>
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      <description>Sedley,&lt;BR /&gt;
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Getting the Disk Image will not help since you need to upgrade the Key and that information will be in the box.</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 16:01:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Eduardo Rolon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-09-25T16:01:35Z</dc:date>
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