topic Re: Archicad 14 in Modeling

Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:10:29 GMT

Does anyone heard something about Archicad 14?

what new or improved features or release date or something?

Thanks

Re: Archicad 14

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 12:50:07 GMT

Yes, I did.
But I am not allowed to tell.

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 14:35:08 GMT

laszlonagy wrote:
Yes, I did.
But I am not allowed to tell.

but at least it be worhty? we will get some of the features we have been crying for decades?

Re: Archicad 14

Laszlo Nagy — Wed, 10 Feb 2010 15:03:37 GMT

Sorry, you will just have to wait and see.

Re: Archicad 14

TMA_80 — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 20:03:00 GMT

well, According to some informations from this forum, We are almost sure about some upcoming and not upcoming features:

the upcoming ones:

- 64bits for Mac
- turning plaster in 3d

and if we are lucky an improved stairmaker...( we've the right to dream 😉 )

What we will not see is: a graphical gdl editor.

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:07:51 GMT

TMA_80 wrote:
- turning plaster in 3d

What is that?

Re: Archicad 14

TMA_80 — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:24:38 GMT

actually, it"s not really a feature but a fixed library "bug"

http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com/viewtopic.php?p=162436&highlight=ac14#162436

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:09:15 GMT

Im waiting for years an included add on just like "objective"
It will certainly be an excelent improvement for archicad 14

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 05:42:29 GMT

In other words nothing new that's useful to the individual. Just new and improved marketing hype so that we can spend our hard earned money to have the latest and greatest only to discover that the bells and whistlers aren't finished all have limited functionality.

Would prefer that Graphisoft take a look at whole of the toolbox tools especially the design elements of the toolbar get an overhaul and add more freeform/3d functionality at least. For a product that promotes its self heavily as a 3d BIM product, it is very limiting working from first fundamentals with having to use a work around (import from Cinema, solid element operation, 3D profile/library parts, or GDL).

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:02:31 GMT

brendon wrote:
In other words nothing new that's useful to the individual. Just new and improved marketing hype so that we can spend our hard earned money to have the latest and greatest only to discover that the bells and whistlers aren't finished all have limited functionality.

To be fair, you shouldn't base your opinion of AC14 just on the points mentioned above. Graphisoft never says anything about the new features in the next version of ArchiCAD until shortly before release, so you have no idea what they have planned and whether it is 'marketing hype' or not.

However once the new features are announced, you are absolutely entitled to be cheesed off if there are no improvements to the basic tools.

Personally, I think there will be some good stuff in the next release. The adding of multicore support, 64bit capability, and the complete re-writing of teamworks must have taken up a huge percentage of the time for the programmers over the last couple of releases. Now that's all finished, they can devote their time fully to enhancing existing features and adding new stuff!

I'd like to see an unification of features for all the tools e.g. coverfills, end angles and cutplane sensitivity, better floorplan representation of the effects of SEOs, an updated complex profile tool with individually adjustable skins and a more fluid workflow directly from the floorplan or in 3d, a design option manager possibly combined with in-place editing of modules, and finally the introduction of at least a basic 'relationship' system between certain elements.

Edit - And by 'relationship' I mean where one piece of geometry can be made to move automatically when something else not necessarily connected is moved, like connecting the top and bottom of a wall to the storey levels above and below so when the storey height changes the wall would adjust automatically.

I'm not asking for much!

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:34:56 GMT

i pray everyday for archicad to make revit a childs play bim tool but dat has not happened yet..............i really think gs...should be the api- archiforma and all its products made be cigraph ..........jus as autodesk bought all of revit..............
gs kindly consider theis proposed option...........or make bim as easy as BIM......dat means give us the power to build the world and its universe.........
from a die hard user

Re: Archicad 14

Stress Co_ — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 18:35:50 GMT

No more Quicktime VR (32bit)

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 20:35:55 GMT

Peter wrote:
I'd like to see an unification of features for all the tools e.g. coverfills, end angles and cutplane sensitivity, better floorplan representation of the effects of SEOs, an updated complex profile tool with individually adjustable skins and a more fluid workflow directly from the floorplan or in 3d, a design option manager possibly combined with in-place editing of modules, and finally the introduction of at least a basic 'relationship' system between certain elements.

I'm not asking for much!

Good list. I would modify the last one to be to expand on the basic relationships we already have. Walls clean up and behave as polylines. Doors and windows make their own holes. Walls, beams and columns intersect in 3D. Coplanar faces and adjoining fills clean up in elevation and section. Zones can update to changes in the enclosing walls. Skylights penetrate roofs. And of course SEOs create relationships. And so on...

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Tue, 16 Feb 2010 23:07:03 GMT

Matthew wrote:
Peter wrote:
I'd like to see an unification of features for all the tools e.g. coverfills, end angles and cutplane sensitivity, better floorplan representation of the effects of SEOs, an updated complex profile tool with individually adjustable skins and a more fluid workflow directly from the floorplan or in 3d, a design option manager possibly combined with in-place editing of modules, and finally the introduction of at least a basic 'relationship' system between certain elements.

I'm not asking for much!
Good list. I would modify the last one to be to expand on the basic relationships we already have. Walls clean up and behave as polylines. Doors and windows make their own holes. Walls, beams and columns intersect in 3D. Coplanar faces and adjoining fills clean up in elevation and section. Zones can update to changes in the enclosing walls. Skylights penetrate roofs. And of course SEOs create relationships. And so on...

Good point Matthew. I meant 'relationship' in the Revit sense where one piece of geometry can be made to move automatically when something else not necessarily connected is moved.

I suppose the most obvious example that AC desperately needs is the ability to link the top and bottom of a wall relative to any storey level, which would reduce much of the manual readjustment needed when the storey levels change. It would also be useful to do things like linking the roof to the top of walls, and slabs to the side of walls, as would being able to fix the position of an object to a distance from a particular corner of a room for example.

Re: Archicad 14

TMA_80 — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:28:18 GMT

Stress wrote:
No more Quicktime VR (32bit)

thanks !I missed that one* ! ...while it is annouced i think that such Anoucements should be linked in the GS homepage...and/or a sticky' post on the forum.

None of the dropped features_products were IMHO "sufficiently" announced:

Maxonform, sketchup addons...

* is VBE intented to replace this option ?!

Re: Archicad 14

Stress Co_ — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 20:19:15 GMT

TMA_80 wrote:
* is VBE intented to replace this option ?!

It may replace it, but at an additional cost.
Current US pricing:
$645.00 w/o the open-GL Shaded rendering engine
$1,295.00 with open-GL Shaded rendering engine
(50% off if you have a subscription)

I'd like to know..... without quicktimeVR... will we be able to create "Sun Studies"??

Re: Archicad 14

TMA_80 — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:01:37 GMT

ok . it's not what we can call 'a fair replacement'; I hope GS has a new "inbox" alternative...

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:50:42 GMT

Quicktime VR is a loss but
Lightworks in ArchiCAD is irrelevant in it's current implementation, and forces the user to look at renderers such as Artlantis, which of course offer this functionality.

However it is yet another item on our ever growing list, reflecting Graphisoft's failure to keep the various 'modules' of the software competitive with other solutions in the marketplace. That list is a depressing read...

Re: Archicad 14

Stress Co_ — Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:59:03 GMT

Compared to VR scenes / VR objects...
VBE is a much nicer tool, IMHO, to share projects with clients.
If you haven't tried it... the trial version and sample file downloads are HERE
That said.... I still want my sun studies.

Re: Archicad 14

Anonymous — Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:55:02 GMT

Stress wrote:
.... I still want my sun studies.

How do you use QTVR with sun studies? I have only used straight animation for this (though typically with a stationary camera).