topic How to put window on two different floors in Modeling

How to put window on two different floors

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:25:57 GMT

Hello, I am beginner so this problem may be funny for you guys but I just cant do this.I need windows to put on 2 different floors and I wall is always blocking half of my window.Thanks guys

Re: How to put window on two different floors

Rod Jurich — Sat, 08 Sep 2012 23:36:59 GMT

StivRezonski1 wrote:
......./ I need windows to put on 2 different floors and I wall is always blocking half of my window.

Place an Empty Opening in the wall below and stretch to the size of your placed window.
When you move your window you will need to also move the opening.
Best to edit in 3D window.

Re: How to put window on two different floors

Anonymous — Sun, 09 Sep 2012 18:47:31 GMT

Thank you it helped a lot:)

Re: How to put window on two different floors

stefan — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 11:26:00 GMT

While I recommend this to many of my students, one problem is in the floor plan display: the floor with the Empty Window will only display an empty window in 2D. Sections and Elevations and 3D look fine.

Re: How to put window on two different floors

David Maudlin — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:55:48 GMT

stefan wrote:
one problem is in the floor plan display: the floor with the Empty Window will only display an empty window in 2D.

Take a look at the Simple Window Opening Settings: use Plan Symbol Fill, set fill to match wall fill; set Wall Contour Line to Both Sides, set Wall Contour Line Pen to match Wall Pen; check Ganging both sides (to eliminate jamb lines).

David

Re: How to put window on two different floors

stefan — Tue, 08 Jan 2013 13:20:24 GMT

David wrote:
stefan wrote:
one problem is in the floor plan display: the floor with the Empty Window will only display an empty window in 2D.
Take a look at the Simple Window Opening Settings: use Plan Symbol Fill, set fill to match wall fill; set Wall Contour Line to Both Sides, set Wall Contour Line Pen to match Wall Pen; check Ganging both sides (to eliminate jamb lines).

David

I have a different Library, so maybe I'm not having access to a similar object. However, I wonder how you would display the window frame in floor plan on e.g. story 0 of a Window that was placed on story 1.

It works better if you have a single wall that extends over the two stories. Or when you use two empty openings and insert a Curtain Wall, but that can not be set up as a regular window.

I want to avoid having to add some 2D Linework to fill in the missing representation, but sometimes that is a simple solution to get things done.

Can you post a screenshot?

Re: How to put window on two different floors

MrC — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:46:51 GMT

make window a favourite
place in empty opening on second level(essentially overlapping first )
adjust in 3d if needed
check schedule for duplicate

Re: How to put window on two different floors

David Maudlin — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 13:19:10 GMT

stefan wrote:
However, I wonder how you would display the window frame in floor plan on e.g. story 0 of a Window that was placed on story 1.

It works better if you have a single wall that extends over the two stories.

My post was about adding an empty opening, then hiding it (wall appears solid in plan). I would recommend the 2 story wall solution, so there is no disconnect between the window's representation on the 2 stories.

In the US Library Window Settings dialog box > General Settings > 3D Detail Level: Off will create just the Wallhole in 3D while still allowing a detailed 2D Symbol in plan, but the 2 windows will be separate elements.

David

Re: How to put window on two different floors

Red — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 14:46:55 GMT

Empty opening is my fix as well, and I use the ID to filter out empty opening within the schedules.

Re: How to put window on two different floors

stefan — Fri, 11 Jan 2013 15:16:19 GMT

David wrote:
stefan wrote:
However, I wonder how you would display the window frame in floor plan on e.g. story 0 of a Window that was placed on story 1.

It works better if you have a single wall that extends over the two stories.
My post was about adding an empty opening, then hiding it (wall appears solid in plan). I would recommend the 2 story wall solution, so there is no disconnect between the window's representation on the 2 stories.

In the US Library Window Settings dialog box > General Settings > 3D Detail Level: Off will create just the Wallhole in 3D while still allowing a detailed 2D Symbol in plan, but the 2 windows will be separate elements.

David

@David: if you use an empty hidden opening, how would the plan display the window that is located on the floor above? That part I don't get.

Can you illustrate what it looks like in plan view on the two different floors? In my example, the ground floor (story 0) displays the empty opening in 2D (with reveal) and not the window frame, as this is only visible on the story above.

Re: How to put window on two different floors

MrC — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 01:39:00 GMT

my apologies,this didnt load with my first post

Re: How to put window on two different floors

David Maudlin — Sat, 12 Jan 2013 14:19:20 GMT

stefan wrote:
@David: if you use an empty hidden opening, how would the plan display the window that is located on the floor above? That part I don't get.

That advice was for users who don't need or want to see the window on both stories, so not applicable in your case.

stefan wrote:
Can you illustrate what it looks like in plan view on the two different floors? In my example, the ground floor (story 0) displays the empty opening in 2D (with reveal) and not the window frame, as this is only visible on the story above.

You already have the solution to showing the window on both stories:

stefan wrote:
It works better if you have a single wall that extends over the two stories.

Make a two story wall, change the Wall's Show on Stories to: All Relevant Stories, then adjust the Floor Plan Cut Plan on each story to cut through the window.

David