topic Re: How was this acheived ? in Modeling

How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Fri, 26 May 2023 12:09:46 GMT

i just read on the graphisoft website about this .
http://www.graphisoft.com/community/press_zone/jury-biotechlab.html

looks fantastic but im very curious about how he formed the base and ergonomic columns tieing into the main biulding structure ?

i would be very interested to see what would be the strategy to pulll this form off ?

thanks.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:00:17 GMT

1. Slab with hole
2. Multiply slab
3. Add Shell for SEO
4. Hide Shell and there you go

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Mon, 17 Oct 2011 22:35:04 GMT

interesting and nice.

Re: How was this acheived ?

JaredBanks — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 01:20:11 GMT

dasneboja,

That is awesome. Interested in writing a blog post about that for my site? PM or e-mail me!

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 06:53:28 GMT

very cool.

this is what i understand and dont understand

1. Slab with hole OK
2. Multiply slab OK
3. Add Shell for SEO CAN YOU GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL PLEAE !
4. Hide Shell and there you go OK put this on a new layer and turn the layer off.

Thanks.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:01:00 GMT

ok i had a few minutes to try this.

for the shell part.
i was able to first select a surface on the side from one of my boxes, to allign starting view.
then i created the free form shape.
extruded the shape using the shell option 360 degrees.

placed it on the a new level.
used SOE solid object editing to subtract the new form from the boxes.
turned it off and BINGO there she is !

my only problem is.
i would really like to be able to go to a section view, draw my shape exactly for the extrusion and then make my shell.
But i cant work out how i can make a good profile in section and then use that for my shell extrude. at the moment it is just all loose in 3d view mode.

thanks guys.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:10:03 GMT

pixpast, you're almost there!

missing part for you:
1. in section draw contour of shell with spline tool (or any other line tool)
2. copy that line and paste it on the floor plan
3. with shell tool active space+clik that line and finish shell as you want...

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:25:59 GMT

ok have my spline set up in section.

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:29:06 GMT

2. copy that line and paste it on the floor plan
DONE !

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:36:55 GMT

little problem.
when i have my spline on plan.
i select shell tool.
then i select the correct option of shell tool.
go and space select my spline line and i get this horrible error message ?

eeek, what am i doing wrong ?
Thanks a lot.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:55:14 GMT

ufff....have no idea what that error message says...

way you describe it is exactly how I get it done...

I don't even have to click exactly on spline, anywhere around it works...

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:55:39 GMT

ok now its working.
i selected the spline line, first, then the shell tool and NOW it will let me select the profile.
i got the extrusion at 90 degrees and then. clicked on the new shell extrusion and FREE ROTATE 90 degrees.

Getting closer.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:02:27 GMT

i still have to tweak my extrude profile so the middle piece does not get cut so sharp.
but principally, this is correct i think ?

thanks a lot for the help.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 09:23:57 GMT

ok taking my existing element and joining 3 more copies together.
I can start to get an idea of this type of roof.
cool.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:39:32 GMT

strange thing archicad 15.
i did my SOE cuts and the model shows up perfectly in section but no changes show up on plan ?
a form this line, can really only be formed using solid object editing,,, so how do people cope when they have this complex form created and then cant produce one single usable plan for it ?

any work around suys ?
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:04:52 GMT

i was just thinking.
a very bad bad work around could be ??

make the model with SOEs.
Then create an elevation view on each cut beam.
Trace around the profile of the cut beam.
go to complex profile editor.
copy the profile into the complex editor.
save it as beam number 1.
go back to plan and place your beam number 1.

repeat this process for every beam or cut wall.

drink a lot of coffee for this system.
you probably wont see your family for a long long time.
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:13:05 GMT

mmmmmm thinking again, i dont think my alternative solution will work ?
the intersection between crossing beams will be too sharp.
in the SOE model the top of the beams are also cut and curved to fit the SOE object, therefore giving a smooth usable top surface.

the thinking continuous....
Ian

Re: How was this acheived ?

Anonymous — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:37:51 GMT

the thinking continuous....

i was thinking about the plan problem....
if before SOE was used, the core elements on plan were edited and cut to shape.
then on the general plan, the SOE wouldnt matter to much.

but when i think a little more...
if there was for example a drop in the top surface of 3 meters down, that would cut through possible a lower internal slab.
if SOE wont give me that information and i dont think it will, then .... SOE is unusable for anything else than pritty 3d modelling.
and the other users are right, SOE as it stands is a disgracful walk in the opposing direction to BIM !

i cant really believe it......

Re: How was this acheived ?

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:45:58 GMT

You can try the option of starting the first/base shape as a square shell with "Skylights" (it works also with subtracted slabs) as empty openings and then the SEOs will show on plan.

Re: How was this acheived ?

Eduardo Rolon — Wed, 19 Oct 2011 12:46:33 GMT

floor plan