topic Re: elevation detail in Modeling

elevation detail

Anonymous — Sun, 20 Mar 2011 21:35:03 GMT

how do i control the level of detail of my elevations? (example the elevation of a railing is full of lines that simulate 3d that i don't want in my printing). Any Idea? Thanks

Re: elevation detail

Laszlo Nagy — Mon, 21 Mar 2011 16:52:12 GMT

For many library parts there is a setting that controls how detailed the library part is.
I don't know if it is available among the parameters, but I know that e.g. Doors and Windows usually have this option.
So check the parameters of the library part.

Re: elevation detail

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 00:19:02 GMT

You may have to add "white only" fills (or other Fills) in your elevations to "blot out" certain portions of what you don't want seen. When I draw a house that has a basement and the ground line in an elevation is only 1' below the first floor finished floor, I cover up the rest of the basement below the ground line with a white fill.

Re: elevation detail

Anonymous — Tue, 22 Mar 2011 05:09:20 GMT

what about the railing of my staircases they're realy killing my elevations. should i use the white fill?

Re: elevation detail

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 00:31:58 GMT

That's the way I would handle it. When I draw a house that has a basement and the ground line in the elevation is 1 or 2 ft. below the first floor finished floor, I use a white fill to cover up the rest of the basement below the ground line.

Re: elevation detail

Barry Kelly — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:22:54 GMT

qwsoftdraw wrote:
That's the way I would handle it. When I draw a house that has a basement and the ground line in the elevation is 1 or 2 ft. below the first floor finished floor, I use a white fill to cover up the rest of the basement below the ground line.

Have you tried using a mesh with the top at ground level?

It will work on ALL elevations and sections at the same time so no need for separate fills and lies in each one.
The top level of the mesh can also be altered for when the ground isn't level.

In elevation/section you can use a black/coloured pen and hatch pattern if you want to see the mesh - it will look like the elevation is sitting on a little base.
Or if you don't want to see it change the pen colours to white.
It won't print but will still mask everything below the surface level.
Unfortunately you will need to add in a ground line separately but no need for the white fills.
I wish there was a way to leave the mesh top lines on but hide the side skirt.

The attached image shows what I mean.
In this case I have duplicated the mesh below itself and used Solid Element Operation to subtract the lower one from the top to get the sloping base - it can be as thin as you want not necessarily as thick as this.
The lines representing the steps in the walls I have added in manually as I wanted these to show.

Barry.

Re: elevation detail

Anonymous — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:04:48 GMT

for the problem with your stair railings - I am assuminging the extra lines causing the problem relate to seeing through one railing to the other one behind it. I have worked around this problem by making a new layer that only is on in the elevation layer set and put a wall, or roof....etc. behind the first rail trimmed to the top rail and the treads, so that you can't look through the railing.

Re: elevation detail

David Maudlin — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 12:01:58 GMT

Barry wrote:
... I wish there was a way to leave the mesh top lines on but hide the side skirt...

Barry:

I may be misunderstanding your request, but in the Section Settings have you tried Model Display > Boundary Contours > Boundary Display > No Contours?

David

Re: elevation detail

JaredBanks — Wed, 23 Mar 2011 19:36:57 GMT

David,

Model Display > Boundary Contours > Boundary Display > No Contours

Thank you!!

That's a new feature that appeared between 11 and 14 that I never knew about. Very useful.

Simone,

Can you post an image? I'm sure there are other non-2D masking solutions.

Re: elevation detail

Barry Kelly — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 02:00:09 GMT

David wrote:
Barry wrote:
... I wish there was a way to leave the mesh top lines on but hide the side skirt...
Barry:

I may be misunderstanding your request, but in the Section Settings have you tried Model Display > Boundary Contours > Boundary Display > No Contours?

David

Hi David,
No it's not the section boundary contours I am having trouble with.
All we need in my case is a separate pen colour for the side skirt of a mesh so that can be white and leave the top surface with a coloured pen effectively leaving a ground line only.
But unfortunately this can't be done.
You can turn the side skirt of the mesh off completely but then it won't mask anything.
I guess I could add two messhes - one all whithe and one top surface only.

But we are getting away from Simone's original topic a bit.
Show us some images Simone of what you want to hide and I am sure we can come up with some solutions.

Barry.

Re: elevation detail

David Maudlin — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 12:31:19 GMT

Barry wrote:
All we need in my case is a separate pen colour for the side skirt of a mesh so that can be white and leave the top surface with a coloured pen effectively leaving a ground line only.

Barry:

For my elevations, I am cutting only through the Mesh, so in the Elevation Selection Settings dialog box I am setting Model Display > Cut Elements > Cut Fill Pen to white, which leaves the grade line, but masks all below it (the Cut Line Pen is the grade line). If the Mesh is the only item being cut this should work.

David

Re: elevation detail

Barry Kelly — Thu, 24 Mar 2011 14:42:41 GMT

David wrote:
Barry wrote:
All we need in my case is a separate pen colour for the side skirt of a mesh so that can be white and leave the top surface with a coloured pen effectively leaving a ground line only.
Barry:

For my elevations, I am cutting only through the Mesh, so in the Elevation Selection Settings dialog box I am setting Model Display > Cut Elements > Cut Fill Pen to white, which leaves the grade line, but masks all below it (the Cut Line Pen is the grade line). If the Mesh is the only item being cut this should work.

David

Thanks David.
That would work.
I hadn't actually thought of that as my meshes are not being cut by the section.
But I can change that.
Barry.