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Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:11:06 GMT

Is there a way to label items.. when the mouse hovers over an item we would like a note to pop up and describe what it is.. archicad 13

thanks

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:52:59 GMT

This should be on by default. Check your Work Environment. The setting is in there. I forget where exactly.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:02:57 GMT

A label does pop up... but is there a way to modify the label.. add what i want.. for example i have an item that i had to draw that isnt in the library.. i want a label to pop up describing what it is... a label does pop up but doesnt say what i need it to

thanks

Re: Label items in archicad

Stress Co_ — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 00:09:53 GMT

Do you have "show short info only" checked?
What info do you want it to display?
I don't think you can customize the label.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 02:22:29 GMT

if u dont think u can modify a label.. can u add a label?

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:29:18 GMT

cadmaster wrote:
if u dont think u can modify a label.. can u add a label?

Let's call it a tag to avoid confusion with the label tool, and no it is not customizable. You can of course add an actual lablel, but that is another matter.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:23:51 GMT

sorry for the confusion.. i was saying label when it is a tag.. but than someone replied u can add a label...

please.. someone.. tell me how to add a label.. i did a search in archicad 13 help menu.. but as usual it provided nothing

thanks

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:51:18 GMT

There is a label tool which can be used in any 2D view.

The basic form is a simple text label which allows you to type in whatever you want, there is also and option for one that displays the object ID. Beyond that you can use (or write) GDL scripted labels that can do all sorts of things including displaying parameter values etc.

I believe a user who goes by the name of Master Script here on the forum has recently posted a part called "Label Everything" here.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:27:06 GMT

ok.. so the final answer is no.. unless we get into high end scripting or creating ur own gdl objects and pre-input the data so it can be automatically extracted and input into the "TAG" that pops up when u hover over the object in 3-d.. and of course that tag is not customizable/editable or have an option to add text to it... the one we downloaded from master script (http://archicad-talk.graphisoft.com//files/use_label_everything_108.pdf) from what i can tell didnt have that option either.

i would think that is a basic option for a BIM program.. adding a text box would be considered old school base autocad stuff.. than a text box gets difficult when u go from 2-d to 3-d, or visa-versa

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:51:21 GMT

This "basic option" is not available in any BIM program that I know of. In Navis they are called "Smart Tags" and the only option is turning them off and on. In Revit I don't think there is even that option.

I also doubt that there is any way to do this outside of GSHQ. I suspect it is part of the core code and not accessible to API programmers.

Re: Label items in archicad

Laura Yanoviak — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:00:52 GMT

cadmaster wrote:
i would think that is a basic option for a BIM program.. adding a text box would be considered old school base autocad stuff.. than a text box gets difficult when u go from 2-d to 3-d, or visa-versa

I'm sorry, but would be the purpose of this tag? You have said it is a "basic option" -- I've never heard of such a thing.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:30:21 GMT

I was referring to a comment made by another user.. to use a basic text box.. i was responding that a text box seems to basic for this program. mabe what im asking is beyond the limits of the program

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:19:11 GMT

cadmaster wrote:
I was referring to a comment made by another user.. to use a basic text box.. i was responding that a text box seems to basic for this program. mabe what im asking is beyond the limits of the program

I'm sure GS could do it if they wanted to. It's just a question of to what purpose, and is it worth the effort and added complexity.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:27:45 GMT

cadmaster wrote:
...for example i have an item that i had to draw that isnt in the library.. i want a label to pop up describing what it is... a label does pop up but doesnt say what i need it to

What do you need to the 'Info Tag' to say? It currently gives the name of the object, the base elevation, and the layer the object is on when in 2d.

Are you asking to be able to display and edit (some of) the parameters of the object through this Tag? If so, then I'd agree! It would be a nice solution to allow you to quickly modify some of the more important parameters in an object without having to drill down into the settings dialog, whether in 2d or 3d. A bit like a more powerful 'info box', but in the Tag itself.

Re: Label items in archicad

Anonymous — Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:50:11 GMT

Peter wrote:
cadmaster wrote:
...for example i have an item that i had to draw that isnt in the library.. i want a label to pop up describing what it is... a label does pop up but doesnt say what i need it to
What do you need to the 'Info Tag' to say? It currently gives the name of the object, the base elevation, and the layer the object is on when in 2d.

Are you asking to be able to display and edit (some of) the parameters of the object through this Tag? If so, then I'd agree! It would be a nice solution to allow you to quickly modify some of the more important parameters in an object without having to drill down into the settings dialog, whether in 2d or 3d. A bit like a more powerful 'info box', but in the Tag itself.

Also, anything you select will show it's settings in the info palette, and there is even more displayed in the "Element Information" palette.