topic ArchiCAD and BIM in Modeling

ArchiCAD and BIM

Anonymous — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:47:44 GMT

Hi guys

I'm on my Part 1 Placement in Brazil, and currently working on a research project about Building Information Modelling (BIM). Focusing on the main softwares of Revit, ArchiCAD and Bentley.

I need to analyse each software in terms of its;
Advantages
Disadvantages
Ease of Use
Affordability
Market Use
Databank capabilities

I thought it'd be best to ask exisitng users of these programs in various forums, so please give me your opinions!

Cheers

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

TMA_80 — Fri, 25 Sep 2009 21:05:40 GMT

hello

have you had a look here

http://www.aecbytes.com

you'll find great articles about BIM like this one:
http://www.aecbytes.com/feature/2007/BIMSurveyReport.html

there was also this article too...

http://www.aim168realestate.com/real-estate-news/united-arab-emirates/4803/revelation-research-publishes-.html

good luck !

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Dwight — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:28:24 GMT

Folks are too busy to write essays in response to a question like yours.

If you want measurable user reactions, you'll need to go on forums and taunt the users by suggesting their choice is inferior to others.

Then you get guys writing about their software.

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Anonymous — Sun, 27 Sep 2009 14:59:07 GMT

Truth Is Out There

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

David Collins — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 08:28:37 GMT

Dwight wrote:
If you want measurable user reactions, you'll need to go on forums and taunt the users

Something like this:

You don't frighten us, Archi-pigdogs! Go and boil your geometric desciption language, sons of a silly person! I blow my nose at you, you and all you silly BIMs!
Thpppt! Thpppppppt! Thpppppppppppppppt!
You empty-headed keyboard-wipers, I phart in your general direction! Your mother was a mousepad and your father smelled of Pounce!

Now go away or I shall taunt you again!

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Anonymous — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 14:29:01 GMT

Thank you TMA_80 for the links they look really helpful.

Can anyone else put me in the right direction for other articles or sites which may be helpful?

Cheers

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

vfrontiers — Mon, 28 Sep 2009 22:53:55 GMT

David wrote:
Dwight wrote:
If you want measurable user reactions, you'll need to go on forums and taunt the users
Something like this:

You don't frighten us, Archi-pigdogs! Go and boil your geometric desciption language, sons of a silly person! I blow my nose at you, you and all you silly BIMs!
Thpppt! Thpppppppt! Thpppppppppppppppt!
You empty-headed keyboard-wipers, I phart in your general direction! Your mother was a mousepad and your father smelled of Pounce!

Now go away or I shall taunt you again!

or....

I told them we already got one!

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Steve Jepson — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:21:32 GMT

David wrote:
Dwight wrote:
If you want measurable user reactions, you'll need to go on forums and taunt the users
Something like this:

You don't frighten us, Archi-pigdogs! Go and boil your geometric desciption language, sons of a silly person! I blow my nose at you, you and all you silly BIMs!
Thpppt! Thpppppppt! Thpppppppppppppppt!
You empty-headed keyboard-wipers, I phart in your general direction! Your mother was a mousepad and your father smelled of Pounce!

Now go away or I shall taunt you again!

Hey! You leave my mother out of this!

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

David Collins — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 01:45:53 GMT

Fetchez la vache!

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Anonymous — Tue, 29 Sep 2009 03:00:43 GMT

Hey Esmoo, I think your best approach is to browse the forum members for a bit, and find those who are experienced - and have experience of a few different software types. I'd then message them direct and pick their brains between (say) 2 different programs.

Personally as a long time AC user I have found my best insights on REVIT (for example) is from people who have used both. Actually I think it is a far more relevant approach for what you are trying to do. You need informed not biased comparisons.

I'm considering drafting a capability matrix of AC vs "the world" just to document where AC sits feature wise. Why? Try to prompt GS to be strategic in their thinking in AC development. The way things stand in a few years Sketch-up will surpass AC - and that's at 10% the cost! (Some would say surpassed in modeling if you go and buy some of the 3d modeling add-ons available on the web).
In this forum a slide has been posted from a Nemestcheck (AC parent company) presentation on Vectorworks that illustrates just some of AC shortcomings

Re: ArchiCAD and BIM

Anonymous — Thu, 01 Oct 2009 14:57:10 GMT

rwallis, I agree with you.

I asked a few people deep into AC why there isn't marketing campaigns and more aggressive attitude about selling AC to the masses. Seeing that Revit has been forced down the throat of people and they think they have to use it. I was told, they are European based so don't feel the need because it is there bread and butter over there.

I was kind of let down that the reason was that. Why can't we be the 900 lb gorilla and Revit still be the 800 lb gorilla that everyone talks about?

I have found that the arguments about the back and forth are very amusing though about which is better. It is definitely a different world over on the Revit boards.