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    <title>topic Re: AC 11 &amp;quot;Trace  Reference&amp;quot; in Modeling</title>
    <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22293#M10671</link>
    <description>well, yes of course I did, but thanx for the hint &lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt; but isn't so:&lt;BR /&gt;
the refernce must ly exactly under my active window, you know my example with an Xref in Worksheet and the same Xref on a floor. An Xref is placing itself, I supposed they must ly on top of eachother, but thy don't. How can I rely on the placing of an Xref which must be my starting point for building. It is completely unlogical to me.&lt;BR /&gt;
Any ideas?</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:52:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-02-05T08:52:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22291#M10669</link>
      <description>&lt;DIV class="actalk-migrated-content"&gt;&lt;T&gt;Hi, &lt;BR /&gt;
I have used AC in about 10 years now and I have been longing for the Reference function. Now it came and it doesn't seem right. &lt;BR /&gt;
An elevation and a section from the same house and direktion, are not on the same place if I use one as reference. The same with an Xref that is on a worksheet and on a floor. it is placed the same way, even the coordinates are correct, but they are next to eachother not on top. The button "reset reference to default position" creates even more strange position changes. What is wrong?&lt;/T&gt;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 17:41:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22291#M10669</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-04T17:41:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22292#M10670</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Did you try the "Drag Reference" button ? &lt;IMG src="https://community.graphisoft.com/legacyfs/online/emojis/icon_wink.gif" style="display : inline;" /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:33:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22292#M10670</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-04T18:33:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22293#M10671</link>
      <description>well, yes of course I did, but thanx for the hint &lt;E&gt;&lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":winking_face:"&gt;😉&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/E&gt; but isn't so:&lt;BR /&gt;
the refernce must ly exactly under my active window, you know my example with an Xref in Worksheet and the same Xref on a floor. An Xref is placing itself, I supposed they must ly on top of eachother, but thy don't. How can I rely on the placing of an Xref which must be my starting point for building. It is completely unlogical to me.&lt;BR /&gt;
Any ideas?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 08:52:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22293#M10671</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-05T08:52:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22294#M10672</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt; An Xref is placing itself &lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
You must place your XREF consciously. It's possible to move it, unless you've locked it's layer (any of it's layers). Decide where you want it relative to your project origin. &lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;S&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/S&gt;Turn off Suspend Groups&lt;E&gt;&lt;/E&gt;, then select any part of the xref and Drag.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Oh, and turn off Snap to grid, and use hotspots for position coordination.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 09:03:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22294#M10672</guid>
      <dc:creator>Thomas Holm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-05T09:03:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22295#M10673</link>
      <description>The Reference feature does need some work when it comes to placement. I use worksheets to reference DWG backgrounds quite a bit and they place themselves according to some strange relationship between the current zoom of the two windows. I can get the worksheet origin to automatically align with the plan origin if I copy big rectangles to each and zoom extents. Otherwise I always have to move them into alignment. I have never had a problem moving them though (regardless of layer/group settings).</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:16:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22295#M10673</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-05T18:16:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: AC 11 "Trace  Reference"</title>
      <link>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22296#M10674</link>
      <description>ok now I understand it is an ArchiCAD problem, thank you Mathhew. I can move my references without any problem but normally I shouldn't if it is an Xref. Thanks a lot for the hint with the ractangles, I will try it right now. That seems the only solution right now.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Juliane</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 16:46:23 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.graphisoft.com/t5/Modeling/AC-11-quot-Trace-Reference-quot/m-p/22296#M10674</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-02-06T16:46:23Z</dc:date>
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