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ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Greg Kmethy — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 16:14:54 GMT

The Mactel version of Archicad 10 is just a few weeks away!

BUT - due to massive customer demand, we have decided to make the Release Candidate public for all Archicad 10 users today. Please visit the Graphisoft website to find more information:
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac10/mactel.html

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Anonymous — Tue, 04 Jul 2006 18:09:45 GMT

Great news, all I need now is a mactel

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

archislave — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 02:20:22 GMT

Is there a US version available? The international version will only allow us to judge the speed etc...

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 11:58:21 GMT

As stated on the site, de US version will be available in a few days

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James Murray — Wed, 05 Jul 2006 12:11:49 GMT

So the first hotfix should be almost ready...

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archislave — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 18:58:20 GMT

I find it to be running quite snappy on a basic Macbook white with only 512mb of ram.

I am thinking they must have needed to get rid of lots of old code and use Apple's lates programming platform - Code Warrior I think. Anyway, it runs fast and stable but I really want to see a more modern GUI in Archicad instead of all the individual pallettes etc. Take a look at Apple's own apps which look very clean. Graphisoft also needs to hire icon designers to update the application to get ready for Vista and OSX 10.5 (leopard). The icons are much more glassy and modern instead of the line drawings of archicads 20 year old look.

I guess I need to also post this in the wish list area.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

TomWaltz — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 19:35:15 GMT

archislave wrote:
I am thinking they must have needed to get rid of lots of old code and use Apple's lates programming platform - Code Warrior I think.

That was the old program made by Metrowerks. XCode is the new Apple Development System.

I believe everything for Apple must be made in it. Luckily it's free with the OS. (much unlike Visual Studio.... $800?)

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Dwight — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:00:20 GMT

archislave wrote:
The icons are much more glassy and modern instead of the line drawings of archicads 20 year old look.

Right. The shiny bits.

I agree with you totally about the dialog boxes having a just-got-started-in-computing-and-have-a-600x800-pixel-display. I

How about a more functional GUI like Maya, with four way contextual menus? or LightWave with its tiny, efficient boxes? Let's eliminate those vast distances to push the mouse because the interface is currently so floaty and spread out!

A perfect example of how Graphisoft misses the boat is in dumb things like the pet palette. Why are the choices in a row? Why aren't they arranged AROUND a central point? Then, a gesture direction speeds choice. Once I saw Maya do that - with really complex choices being arrayed around the cursor - Archicad seemed twice as archaic.

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archislave — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 20:09:04 GMT

Lightwave looks cool and also the dark gray of Modo. I downloaded the free Maya learning edition and think it is a hideous interface. All of the icons are bright blue and red. I would rather have Archicad the way it is than Maya.
However all of apples pro apps and the other's mentioned are very clean and modern. Also Cheetah has a very clean GUI although the icons are a bit primary shcool.

I think they just need to hire some talented GUI designers and face the fact that programmers are not the best at graphic design. But will they do it? Nooooo! because things like that are seen as not important when if fact they are most important. I wish I could pound it into these pramatist programmers heads. Somehow I picture them as getting their basic work done and going out for beer and sausages. Where's the art? 😉

Why do so many people choose iPod over other MP3 players. It is the integration of the entire look and experience. Simple and clean always wins.

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

__archiben — Tue, 11 Jul 2006 22:13:13 GMT

archislave wrote:
Lightwave looks cool and also the dark gray of Modo.

modo is an exceptionally great looking interface. no idea how it 'handles' though . . . i downloaded the free trial-period demo once but never got the opportunity to play with it.

Simple and clean always wins.

yep. but that "simple" is often the kind of simple that takes many degrees of complexity to achieve. our other words for today are "intuitive" and "process". learn 'em . . . you'll be tested later . . .

~/archiben

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Anonymous — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:51:46 GMT

gkmethy wrote:
The Mactel version of Archicad 10 is just a few weeks away!

BUT - due to massive customer demand, we have decided to make the Release Candidate public for all Archicad 10 users today. Please visit the Graphisoft website to find more information:
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac10/mactel.html

Few weeks has passed, any news on the final release of Universal?
Also has anyone found any bugs?
Thanks,
Joseph

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Anonymous — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 17:12:34 GMT

I have been unable to open our AC9 layout book. I either crash, or AC10macintel tells me it cannot open that file. Any ideas?

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Anonymous — Sun, 06 Aug 2006 21:22:10 GMT

Hello GS,
There are some small & large issues with the AC10 macintel beta - i know that's why it is still a beta

Will there be an update to the beta soon to fix these issues, or is the full public release imminent?

Thanks,
bruce bradsby/SF

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Anonymous — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:04:53 GMT

what do I do now, guys? the mactel beta exired tonight - as promised - but i see no replacement for it on the graphisoft website!!!

???

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__archiben — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 05:24:14 GMT

leporello wrote:
what do I do now, guys? the mactel beta exired tonight - as promised - but i see no replacement for it on the graphisoft website!!!

quite spectacular product management isn't it?

(call your reseller - they may be able to help out short-term . . . )

~/archiben

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Aussie John — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:11:27 GMT

Time to dig out those G3 gumdrop imacs

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__archiben — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:22:10 GMT

i've managed to keep two open sessions running from last night. but my services menu has just crashed (running skype beta does that sometimes) and the only fix is a restart . . . otherwise i will be stuck on wednesday at 5.49pm until i can get another AC mactel downloaded . . . very very pissed off.

~/archiben

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

Greg Kmethy — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:46:29 GMT

The Intel Mac release is now announced:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/IntelMac/
Please also check out the Q&A section:
http://www.graphisoft.com/support/IntelMac/Questions/

MacTel Release candidate users can download the final version at the MacTel Beta site:
http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/ac10/mactel.html

The Intel Mac version also comes on CD - please contact your reseller about that!

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Anonymous — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:38:18 GMT

It runs, it plays, it PLOTS, it's able to navigate tall buildings...

Very nice work, GS team! Thanks very much for porting AC10 natively to MacIntel - it ROCKS in 3D realtime navigation on my MacBook Pro 2.0GHz w/ 1.5GB of RAM.

An A-B 3D navigation comparison/race between my Mac laptop against a pretty new desktop PC running AC10. Trekking around & through the same multifamily,multistory project file (w/ sitework, mesh, and many trees & shrubs to challenge the machines) revealed the Mac as the clear winner in terms of speed and least "dropped" entities during navigation.

The PC pilot, until recently an AutoDesk power-user/beta tester until he saw the light, summarily put a new Mac on his shopping list.

-bruce bradsby
bdb+a / San Francisco

Re: ArchiCAD 10 Mactel version release candidate is out now

archislave — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:50:37 GMT

Congratulations! It is quite an accomplishment! I would love to see one of those Apple produced interview that would highlight the challenges and processes you went through. Are you developing with Xcode 3 on the MacPro etc?