topic Re: Editing in Layout Book? in Modeling

Editing in Layout Book?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:22:38 GMT

Hi, I'm trying to produce some elevation and section drawings but when I work on the layouts at the layout page, some of the automated updates are too complicated. I want to simplify my sections and elevations so I was wondering if it's possible to edit in the layout book.

I use to work in Vectorworks and when you have selected a view, you could convert everything to lines and then edit from there. I'm not sure if that's the case for ArchiCAD, but is there any similar function or a directory of how I can approach this?

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 21:39:41 GMT

If you really really really have to you can change the elevation to Drawing (in the Elevation tool settings), which converts everything to lines and fills. This is within the settings of the Elevation tool itself, not the Layout book. Modelling is recommended, however.

(Section tool shown below, same for Elevation)

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

Anonymous — Tue, 28 Oct 2008 23:04:21 GMT

I actually figured out a better way. When you are at the model page, copy anything you want to transfer. Paste it on the page in the layout book and it will automatically transform into lines.

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:16:47 GMT

ELing34 wrote:
I actually figured out a better way. When you are at the model page, copy anything you want to transfer. Paste it on the page in the layout book and it will automatically transform into lines.

It's not really the recommended way of doing it though!

What happens if you change something in the original model? Also notice that your drawing isn't full size any more!

Views are definitely the best way to do it. You can still work in 2d if you want, but views give you full control over the viewing scale, layer combination, and pen set, and also update automatically.

The way to do it would be to edit the elevations separately, create a view of each one with the required settings (scale, layer combo etc), and then drag the views onto the layout. It's a much better solution than copying and pasting, and has no maintainance issues like remembering which is the most up-to-date drawing when you look at it again in 6 months!

Good luck!

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

Richard Morrison — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 00:16:53 GMT

This is NOT a good way, because you lose the ability to automatically reference that drawing. If you MUST explode the section/elevation, then I would copy it into a new detail or worksheet, so you can reference it.

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

Thomas Holm — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:34:09 GMT

ELing34 wrote:
I actually figured out a better way. When you are at the model page, copy anything you want to transfer. Paste it on the page in the layout book and it will automatically transform into lines.

You lose every advantage of having an advanced BIM system like Archicad. You might just as well draw in Paper Space in Autocrap, or even better, use Rapidographs on tracing film.

Re: Editing in Layout Book?

David Maudlin — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 11:43:59 GMT

Richard wrote:
This is NOT a good way, because you lose the ability to automatically reference that drawing. If you MUST explode the section/elevation, then I would copy it into a new detail or worksheet, so you can reference it.

Some offices copy the section/elevation within the window, dragging the copy (which changes the model to lines & fills) a simple distance up or to the right. They can edit the copy while still referencing the model, and copy elements from the model to the line version as the model changes. I work with lines, 2D objects, fills and text directly on the model, which is closer to maintaining the Virtual Building.

David