topic Re: SLOPING WALLS in Modeling

SLOPING WALLS

Anonymous — Tue, 23 May 2023 12:54:41 GMT

I know I can cut a wall with a roof, but I am wondering if I can draw a complex shape in an elevation, extrude it and use that with a the seo function to cut a complex shape to the top of a wall?

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 04:28:51 GMT

yes you can

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adzik — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 06:28:41 GMT

Check Archicad help files for "Solid element operations" and "custom profile"

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:26:40 GMT

So there isn't a 3d solid tool you can use in an elevation window. I have create a profile through profile manager and turn it into a beam or something and then open it in the elevation window and then do the seo.
I just thought I had missed something obvious. What a horrible way to go about it.

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adzik — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:32:32 GMT

Well you got the basic gist of the process.

I wouldn't say that it's horrible. In my opinion it's rather easy actually, because once you've create the profile element and SEOd it from the wall, then all changes you make to the actual profile in profile manager reflect automatically on the SEOd wall in elevation/3D/etc.

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:53:18 GMT

That is certainly beneficial, and having it update automaticly is a bonus. I am still not sold though. I have a series of existing raking, flat various height walls which I have modeled and I need to extend some of these walls up by various amounts to create a railing for a stair which is being remodeled for disabled access. It would be great to be able to create a fill in elevation, which i could extruded and use seo with.

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adzik — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:59:08 GMT

But you can!

Just create your fill in the elevation view in whatever shape you need it and then just copy-paste it into the profile drawing in profile manager.

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Ralph Wessel — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 09:44:11 GMT

joPlan wrote:
I have a series of existing raking, flat various height walls which I have modeled and I need to extend some of these walls up by various amounts to create a railing for a stair which is being remodeled for disabled access.

Any sketches, images? (You know the old saying, "a picture is worth a thousand words"...)

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 20:32:57 GMT

For a situation like this I would just use a roof (on a layer turned off unless you need to modify it) as the Operator. Complex profiles would be harder to manage in this case if there are different angles involved, as opposed to just changing the angle of the roof. If the operator needed to be an irregular shape then Complex Profiles would be the way to go.

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Anonymous — Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:36:21 GMT

Thanks for all your suggestions. I was just checking there wasn't an easier way to create the shape I needed. To be honest I have used other 3d software where this (creating a shape in elevation) is possible and it is so much easier, simpler and more direct.

Cheers all

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Erika Epstein — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:29:22 GMT

If you apply your custom profile to a beam, the beam will cut the shape into the wall without having to do a separate SEO operation. You would keep the beam on the SEO layer so you don't see it.

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Anonymous — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:35:51 GMT

Another way is to use the stair as the operator and the wall as the target, subtract with upwards extrusion. Works in 12 with AC stairs.
Move the stair and the wall changes follow.

EDIT: I missed that he wants the wall to be the rail.

Snap

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Anonymous — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:37:14 GMT

I have just this minute finished doing that. It looks great, works fine and I am happy with the results. I have stored the profile as a beam calling it cutting shape and was happy to see it take the correct bite out of my wall as soon as I made it. The cut and paste into the profile manger is realy the only extra step and having it self adjusting pobably outweighs the fiddling around. I am slowly getting used to this new way of doing things. Soon my hair may even grow back. 🙂